Simplifying a series / parallel circuit and calculating unknown values

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around simplifying a series/parallel circuit and calculating unknown values such as currents, total voltage, and total resistance. Participants explore the implications of a junction in the circuit and how it affects current flow and voltage drops across resistors.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that with 1A flowing through a 5Ω resistor, there must be 1A through the identical parallel resistor, leading to an equivalent resistance calculation of 7Ω.
  • Another participant explains that the tie connection in the middle of the circuit maintains the same voltage, suggesting that the two bottom resistors are in parallel, which aligns with the participant's redraw of the circuit.
  • A different participant suggests that the original circuit's complexity may be overthought, emphasizing that the top two resistors are also in parallel and that knowing the current through one resistor provides the voltage across it.
  • Participants discuss the need for clarity in calculations, with suggestions to use parentheses for better readability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the parallel nature of the resistors and the correctness of the calculations presented, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the junction and its impact on current flow.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the ideal behavior of the circuit components are present, such as the tie connection being treated as an ideal conductor. The discussion does not resolve the implications of the junction on current distribution.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals studying circuit analysis, particularly those grappling with the complexities of series and parallel resistor configurations and the implications of circuit junctions.

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Homework Statement
I'm struggling with interpreting the circuit correctly, and checking my work afterwards yields confusing results.
Relevant Equations
Kirchhoff's Current Law
Ohms Law
Circuit1.jpg


Given the circuit above, I have to solve for the labelled currents, find V total and R total accordingly. 1A is flowing through the 5Ω resistor as shown. Assuming electron flow (negative terminal to positive) for circuit.

The connector in the middle was somewhat confusing. Without it, this would be much simpler. At any rate, I redrew the circuit (perhaps incorrectly) as follows:

Circuit1_Redrawn.jpg
If I have a 1A going through one identical parallel resistor, I must have 1A going through the other.

Adding the equivalent parallel resistor values, I get 4.5 + 2.5 = 7Ω.

2A across 2.5Ω = 5V dropped.
2A across 4.5Ω = 9V dropped.

R total = 7Ω
I total= 2A
V total = 14V

Using Kirchoffs Current Law - (i2 = It * R1 / R1+R2) 2A * 6/6+18 = 0.5A?
i1 = 2A * 18/6+18 = 1.5A?

I feel like the redraw was a mistake, because without that junction, the values don't make any sense in the original circuit.
Circuit1_redrawn2.jpg
My question is, how do I interpret this circuit correctly? How do I know if any current is going to flow through the middle connector, and if so, how much? It's not intuitive to me at all. Apologies for the length.
 
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The thing to think about the tie connection in the middle - the voltage is the same at that point.

If it is an ideal conductor (0 ohms) then regardless of the amount of current through it, there is zero voltage drop. This makes the two bottom resistors in parallel, and the two top ones in parallel.

The way you redrew it is electrically the same as the original drawing.

Your calculations look correct - I would add some parentheses to make it a little more clear.

So if 1.5 A flows through R1, and 0.5 A flows through R2, and you have the currents in the bottom two resistors, how much flows through the tie connector?
 
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My 2¢ is simply that you are over thinking it. Remember that no matter what, the top two resistors are in parallel. Of course it's the same case for the bottom two. If you are given a current through one resistor you know the voltage across it. It may help you to redraw with the top and bottom each having one equivalent resistor. You may find you go back and forth between the two schematics to help in solving.
 
Thanks very much for your replies gentleman, I can see now where I was confused.
 

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