Need to find 2nd moment of area

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The discussion revolves around finding the second moment of area (I) for a cantilever beam subjected to a bending stress (σ) due to an applied force (F). Participants are attempting to clarify the parameters of the problem, including the nature of the load and the geometry of the cross-section involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to find the second moment of area (I) for the cantilever beam and requests assistance.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the load type (point load or knife edge) and the specific cross-section for which the second moment of area needs to be calculated.
  • A participant mentions the formula for bending stress (σ) and attempts to relate the dimensions of the cross-section (b and h) to the parameters given in the problem, indicating confusion about the uniformity of the cross-section.
  • One participant suggests that the question may be poorly worded and provides insights into the dimensions to consider for calculating I, indicating that both sections of the beam may need to be analyzed for maximum stress.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the specifics of the load type or the appropriate cross-section to analyze. There is ongoing uncertainty regarding the dimensions to use in the calculations.

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Participants note that the question lacks clarity, particularly regarding the load application and the geometry of the cross-section. There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of b and h in relation to the cross-section's configuration.

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Hi all, i m new here, been given a task to find bending stress σ when force F is applied, the figure can be model as a cantilever, the support is on the left.,but i don't know how to find 2nd moment of area (I) for the figure below, pls help
thanks in advance.

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



σ=(M(T/2))/I

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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First, you need to give us a clue as to how far you can get. Second, the figure is not totally clear. On the top left figure, which is presumably a plan, where exactly is F applied? Is it a point load or a knife edge load along two edges? Thirdly, can you identify the cross-section whose second moment of area you want? Finally, what definition do you know for I?
 
pongo38 said:
First, you need to give us a clue as to how far you can get. Second, the figure is not totally clear. On the top left figure, which is presumably a plan, where exactly is F applied? Is it a point load or a knife edge load along two edges? Thirdly, can you identify the cross-section whose second moment of area you want? Finally, what definition do you know for I?

i m not sure the load is a point load or knife edge. i assume it should be knife edge. i forgot which cross-section area i should be finding for. i know i mus use (bh^3)/12 but i don't know what is my b and what is my h.

based on the formula σ=(M(T/2))/I, my h should be T and b should be A but the cross-section area is not uniform. i m confused now. pls point me in the right direction.. thanks
 
It's not your fault that it is a badly worded question. If the support is at the left end, then it looks like A is the span. At the root of the cantilever, b is the C on the drawing. Further towards the load, it is C-D. You are correct that T is the h you are looking for. Perhaps you have to look at both sections to find which stress is maximum. It would also depend on whether F was shared between the two prongs of the fork. You are correct that I = use (bh^3)/12 where b is parallel to the neutral axis in the cross section and h perpendicular to the neutral plane...
 

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