Net Force of 60 kg Person in Elevator: Up/Down

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The net force on a 60 kg person in an elevator accelerating at 5 m/s² is calculated differently for upward and downward motion. When accelerating upwards, the net force is 888 N, while for downward acceleration, it is 288 N. The discussion emphasizes the importance of considering both gravitational and normal forces to determine net force accurately. Clarification is provided that the normal force must exceed gravitational force for upward acceleration. The calculations presented are confirmed to be correct based on the principles of physics.
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Homework Statement



What is the net force of a 60 kg person, in Newtons, in an elevator accelerating at 5 m/s/s;
a) upwards?
b) downwards?

Homework Equations


F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution



a) F = 60 (5+9.8)
F = 60 * 14.8
F = 888 N [up]

b) F = 60 (-5+9.8)
F = 60 * 4.8
F = 288 N


Are my answers correct? If they are it is because you have to use vectors and do the change in acceleration to get the acceleration correct?
 
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Net force on the person or the normal force on the person by the elevator?
 
Apphysicist said:
Net force on the person or the normal force on the person by the elevator?

Net force on the person. The normal force would just be mass multiplied by the acceleration due to gravity correct?
 
barthayn said:
Net force on the person. The normal force would just be mass multiplied by the acceleration due to gravity correct?

Actually no. If you consider that the forces on the person are just the normal force of the elevator on the person and the gravitational force, in order to have a net acceleration of 5m/s2 of both the person and elevator, your normal force has to exceed the gravitational force.

At least that's how I read the problem. I see elevator problems and they usually ask for the normal force, since given a net acceleration and gravitational force, the normal force is what is unknown.
 
So is my answers for the net force of the person correct? Which are:

a) F = 60 (5+9.8)
F = 60 * 14.8
F = 888 N [up]

b) F = 60 (-5+9.8)
F = 60 * 4.8
F = 288 N [down]
 
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