Is Russia Still a Threat? Examining the Claims of Golitsyn's 'New Lies For Old

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In summary, Golitsyn's book discusses how Russian and Chinese leaders believe that democracy will not work in their favor and that they must disguise themselves as democrats in order to achieve their goals. Despite the many negative signs, he believes that Russia can still be trusted. However, he cautions that we should be weary of China's intentions.
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"New Lies For Old"

Has anybody read "New Lies For Old" by Golitsyn, the ex-Soviet spy.

What did you think of it?

Here is a review of it: http://www.antipas.org/news/russia/proof_pudding.html
 
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Golitsyn's explanation is basic: "The Russian and Chinese leaders are still committed to their objective of world domination and believe that, disguised as 'democrats' ... they will be able to achieve it."

Before Deng Xiao Ping died, he reiterated that China must not seek dominance in any way and that we must try to get along. Any fear of PRC dominance is misplaced for the sheer reason that the country is not capable of doing do. Please kindly refer to "The Coming Collapse of China" by Gordon Ching for an honest exposition of the multitude of structural and systematic problems that are breaking her back.
 
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Golitsyn's explanation is basic: "The Russian and Chinese leaders are still committed to their objective of world domination and believe that, disguised as 'democrats' ... they will be able to achieve it."

Before Deng Xiao Ping died, he reiterated that China must not seek dominance in any way and that we must try to get along. Any fear of PRC dominance is misplaced for the sheer reason that the country is not capable of doing do. Please kindly refer to "The Coming Collapse of China" by Gordon Ching for an honest exposition of the multitude of structural and systematic problems that are breaking her back.

But can we trust Russia?

Putin is not showing any positive signs. Consider

1) After the Beslan tragedy, Putin performs his so-called "power grab" in which he limits democracy in local elections.

2) Yukos, Russia's main oil unit is taken over by the state.

3) Yushenko is mysteriously poisoned and Putin is very vehement over the US on that which he calls "interference in Ukrainian elections".

4) In 2005, Russia and China are teaming up for unprecedented joint military exercises.

5) Further, no matter how absurd the accusations by Golitsyn may seem, he does have a prediction accuracy record of 94%.

6) Golitsyn further said that Russia would try to distance Europe from USA. I don't if Russia has any hand but anti-Americanism is certainly growing in Europe.
 
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I have seen it asserted online (by partisan sources) that the way to understand Putin's approach is Fascism. While some aspects of Fascism (glorification of the Folk) are missing (Putin seem to want to reunify the non-Russian ex-SSRs), others like control of production in the name of the leadership, not the people, are explicitly fascistic. It's something to think about.
 
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But can we trust Russia?

Putin is not showing any positive signs. Consider

1) After the Beslan tragedy, Putin performs his so-called "power grab" in which he limits democracy in local elections.

2) Yukos, Russia's main oil unit is taken over by the state.

3) Yushenko is mysteriously poisoned and Putin is very vehement over the US on that which he calls "interference in Ukrainian elections".

4) In 2005, Russia and China are teaming up for unprecedented joint military exercises.

5) Further, no matter how absurd the accusations by Golitsyn may seem, he does have a prediction accuracy record of 94%.

6) Golitsyn further said that Russia would try to distance Europe from USA. I don't if Russia has any hand but anti-Americanism is certainly growing in Europe.

Guess I will never be able to understand how anyone can wilfully slap people around, punch them hard a few times in the stomach, violate them in a variety of ways, and then turn around to say THEY have an attitude. :biggrin:
 

What is "New Lies For Old: A Review" about?

"New Lies For Old: A Review" is a book written by Anatoliy Golitsyn, a former KGB agent, in 1984. In this book, Golitsyn discusses his predictions about the future of the Soviet Union and the Communist Bloc.

What makes "New Lies For Old: A Review" significant?

"New Lies For Old: A Review" gained significance due to the fact that many of Golitsyn's predictions about the Soviet Union and the Communist Bloc came true. This has led to debates about the authenticity of his claims and the accuracy of his predictions.

What are some of the claims made in "New Lies For Old: A Review"?

In the book, Golitsyn claims that the Soviet Union was not truly collapsing, but rather implementing a strategic deception plan to lull the West into a false sense of security. He also predicts that the Communist Bloc would eventually appear to fall apart, but would actually be restructured into a more covert and powerful organization.

What evidence does "New Lies For Old: A Review" provide to support its claims?

Golitsyn provides many examples and evidence to support his claims, including the gradual disintegration of the Soviet Union, the rise of new leaders who were once part of the KGB, and the continued influence of the Soviet Union in global affairs even after its supposed collapse.

What are some criticisms of "New Lies For Old: A Review"?

Some critics argue that Golitsyn's predictions were too vague and could be interpreted in a way that could fit any future events. Others also point out that Golitsyn's claims were not supported by evidence and were merely based on his personal opinions and experiences as a former KGB agent.

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