New recent SMS scams

  • Thread starter Thread starter WWGD
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recent SMS scams and related fraudulent activities, including phishing texts and potential toll fraud. Participants share personal experiences and explore the implications of these scams, touching on both theoretical and practical aspects of the issue.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants report receiving suspicious texts and letters that appear to be linked to toll services, raising concerns about potential hacking or fraud.
  • One participant describes a physical letter threatening blackmail related to vehicle registration, suggesting a possible connection to ongoing phishing scams.
  • Another participant proposes that the scams utilize a scattergun strategy, drawing parallels to historical scams that exploit fear and urgency.
  • There is speculation about the cloning of license plates as a possible explanation for the toll-related communications, with references to practices in the UK.
  • Some participants discuss the possibility of image recognition software misreading license plates, citing personal experiences and anecdotal evidence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the causes and implications of the scams, with no clear consensus on whether the issues stem from hacking or other fraudulent practices. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the threats and the effectiveness of the scams.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of confirmed information about agency hacks and the potential for legal loopholes to be exploited by scammers. There is also uncertainty regarding the reliability of image recognition technology in toll systems.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals concerned about online security, those who have experienced similar scams, and anyone looking to understand the mechanics of recent fraudulent activities.

Computer science news on Phys.org
Not to mention the followup guy who for a price in bitcoin will send a SWAT team to your home:

https://www.wired.com/story/torswats-swatting-arrest/

For more than a year, the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation has been hunting the person whom experts say is one of the most prolific swatters in American history. Law enforcement now believes they have finally arrested the person responsible.

A 17-year-old from California is allegedly the swatter known as Torswats, according to sources familiar with the investigation. The teenager is currently in custody and awaiting extradition from California to Seminole County, Florida. The Florida State Attorney’s Office tells WIRED that he faces four felony counts.

or more recently (Feb 2025) this fellow who's been attached to 400+ SWATTING calls:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/us/california-swatting-calls-sentence-teen.html

Sadly I couldn't quote the article as its behind a paywall. However, those of us wealthy enough to have a NY Times account might like to read this.

This is the guy Tyler Barriss on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting
 
  • Wow
Likes   Reactions: OmCheeto
What's even more interesting is that along with receiving these fishing texts, I received a physical letter, delivered by the USPS, from an actual toll service about 50 miles from where I live. I haven't been over that toll bridge in at least 10 years. Anyways, I haven't heard any news of the agency itself being hacked, but it sure looks like it.

The USPS has been notified.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: WWGD
It's likely that it hasn't. These scams rely on a scattergun strategy: They blanket an area, use plausible tolling agencies, and add a little fear to it.

It's like the old football pool scam, in which the scammer told 64 people that he could predict the next game in a string of games. Then, he'd send out prediction 1 to 32 that team A won and prediction 2 to the other 32 that team B won.

He repeated this process a few more times: 16 v 16, 8 v 8, and 4 v 4. Each time, he escalated the price of admission to the answer so that they could bet on a winner.
In the end, he won, and they mostly lost.
 
OmCheeto said:
I haven't heard any news of the agency itself being hacked, but it sure looks like it.
Surely it is more likely that your number plate has been cloned (is this a thing in the US? It certainly is in the UK).
 
pbuk said:
Surely it is more likely that your number plate has been cloned (is this a thing in the US? It certainly is in the UK).
Were there not this ongoing nationwide phishing scam, I would agree. But this is too bizarre a coincidence.

The letter also threatened blackmail, whereby if I didn't pay the fee and fine, the the bi-annual registration on my vehicle would be blocked. I'm up for renewal in two months, so the timing was perfect to prompt me to pay the bill immediately. It's interesting in that there is an actual state law which allows them to do this! I'm now wondering if AI was prompted to find such legal loopholes to target an audience like myself.

In any event, if this were not happening to me, I would not believe it, as it sounds quite absurd.
 
jtbell said:
The toll road's image recognition software might have misread someone else's license plate
I saw something similar more recently -- don't remember where. Some nefarious person doctored a number in his license plate to look like one belonging to someone else. The person who got the toll bill was able to show that the picture of the license taken by the road camera had a digit that was unlike the same digit on his license plate.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: WWGD and russ_watters

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
842
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
2K