Newbie question - Magnetic fields vs Rolex

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the impact of magnetic fields on wristwatches, particularly in relation to the claims made by Rolex regarding their watches' resistance to magnetic fields. Participants explore the measurement units for magnetic fields and seek methods to measure the magnetic fields of common household objects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • A participant questions whether different measurements for magnetic field resistance (Gauss, Oersted, A/m) can be directly compared and seeks conversion methods.
  • Another participant provides a calculation relating magnetic field strength in Gauss to amp-turns per meter, suggesting a specific conversion for a given value.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of wearing watches near strong magnetic fields, such as those from MRI machines.
  • Participants discuss the feasibility of measuring magnetic fields from household items like laptops and speakers, noting that typical household objects may not produce significant magnetic fields at a distance.
  • One participant mentions that while some experiments could be conducted, they may not yield accurate or reliable measurements for weak fields.
  • There is a mention of the inverse square law in relation to the strength of magnetic fields and distance, with a correction made regarding the mathematical expression of this relationship.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and concern regarding the effects of magnetic fields on watches, with some agreeing on the challenges of measuring household magnetic fields while others provide differing views on the potential impact of such fields on watch performance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best methods for measuring these fields and the implications for watch enthusiasts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of consensus on the effectiveness of proposed measurement methods and the accuracy of the calculations provided. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific definitions and assumptions related to magnetic field strength and its effects.

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Hi forum, I know it's an odd topic header, but please bear with me, especially as I'm a newbie here and useless at Physics.

I felt this would be the best place to look for advice and understanding on magnetic fields.

I ask as I am a wrist watch fan...and since the release of a Rolex claiming to be resistant to magnetic fields of 1,000 gauss there has been much debate over magnetic fields and their impact on watches amongst fellow watch enthusiasts, which I would like help clarifying.

I have two questions:

1) Various watch manufacturers use a variety of measurements for the magnetic fields that their watches can resist, can these (listed below) be directly compared, and if so what are the conversions?

Gauss
Oersted
A/m

For example, some claim to work in fields of 4,800A/m which sounds impressive but my initial conversion into Gauss attempts suggest it is not!?



2) Is there a simple experiment I could use to measure the magnetic field of household objects such as laptops, televisions, stereos etcetera? This would allow watch fans to understand what impact these may have on their timepieces, and perhaps explain why some watches lose significant time after being left near such household goods.


Thanks for taking the time to read this and any help you can offer.
 
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The magnetic field B (Tesla) is related to H (amp-turns per meter) by the relation

B = u0H where u0= 4 pi x 10-7 Henrys per meter
and B(Gauss) = 1 x 104 times B(Tesla)

so B(Gauss) = 4 pi x 10-3 x 4800 AT/m = 60 Gauss

I once lost a good watch because I stuck my hand in a big magnet, and the minute hand was pulled off. Typical MRI machines are about 15,000 Gauss, so my recommendation is take your Rolex near magnetic fields.
 
Thanks for that Bob, as I mentioned I'm no physics expert and certainly won't be going anywhere near a MRI! But how about household objctes such as laptops or big speakers?

Is there a easy/simple way to measure magnetic fields without needing specialist equipment?
 
funkstardelux said:
Thanks for that Bob, as I mentioned I'm no physics expert and certainly won't be going anywhere near a MRI! But how about household objctes such as laptops or big speakers?

Is there a easy/simple way to measure magnetic fields without needing specialist equipment?

There are some experiments one could do, but none of them would be accurate or reliable enough for a decent quantitative measure of their actual magnetic fields, for fields as weak as normal household objects at least. Generally even those objects that have magnets in them, like speakers, have the magnetic field pretty much completely contained inside the case. The Magnetic Field's strength decreases as distance from the magnet increases. If I am 1m away and the strength is X, 2m away it'll be X/2.

I've got a pretty decent magnet that, when I put on top of an old watch, moves the hands, so its strong enough for this test. I put it next to all my speakers, big and small, and there is pretty much no interaction, definitely not enough to actually effect a watch. In fact, the only real way I can see this happening realistically is you keeping your earphones near your timepiece for extended periods of time, which could happen if your hand is in your pocket. Over a period of months, it may cause a noticeable change.
 
Ahh sorry, that's X/4, not X/2. Fields radiated in 3 dimensions all follow the inverse square law.
 

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