Newton's 2nd Law: Pile of Books on a Table Being Moved

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The discussion centers on the application of Newton's 2nd Law in the context of static friction between a pile of books and a table. The user critiques a correction that misrepresents the direction of static friction, asserting that static friction must act opposite to the direction of motion. The user clarifies that when the table is pushed to the right, static friction acts to the left on the books, preventing their motion relative to the table. The conversation emphasizes the dual role of static friction in both opposing the table's motion and accelerating the books.

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Carl tries to move a table, which has a pile of books sitting on it of total mass m_books. The dynamic coefficient of friction is μd (between the table and floor) and the static coefficient of friction between the table and books is μs . Determine the maximum force that Carl can apply to the table so that the books do not slide.
Assume the books do not slide with respect to each other.
Numerical application: μs = 0.75, μd = 0.5, m_books = 3 kg, m_table = 10 kg

1) Draw the free body diagram of the books.
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I drew a free body diagram for the books but it's not the same one in the correction. The static force Fs between the books and the table must be opposite to the motion but the correction does not the same and puts that vector in the same direction as the motion. Here's a drawing of the situation and also the free body diagram of the correction, as you can see its direction is also the motion's one.
 

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With static friction there is no motion between surfaces. Static friction acts to prevent motion between two surfaces.
 
PeroK said:
With static friction there is no motion between surfaces. Static friction acts to prevent motion between two surfaces.
So if the motion is to the right, the static friction must be to the left right ? But that's not what the correction says. Who is wrong ?
 
Serbiwni said:
So if the motion is to the right, the static friction must be to the left right ? But that's not what the correction says. Who is wrong ?

First, if there was no friction.

If the table is pushed to the right, the books would not move at all. Relative to the table the books would slide across the surface of the table.

Second, if there is static friction:

If the table is pushed to the right, the static friction will pull the books to the right also. And, by Newton's third law, the books will retard the motion of the table.

So, it depends how you look at. The force of static friction acting on the table will oppose the acceleration of the table. But, the static friction acting on the books will accelerate the books.
 

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