Newton's second law of motion questions

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to Newton's second law of motion, specifically involving a person on roller blades rolling down an inclined hill. The problem includes calculating acceleration and speed, considering factors like mass, angle of incline, and friction.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration using forces acting on the person, including gravitational and frictional forces. There are questions about the correct setup of the normal force on an incline and whether the given distance should be used directly in kinematic equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the normal force and its role in calculating acceleration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider force components perpendicular to the incline, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the incline on the normal force and how it affects their calculations. There is also uncertainty about the use of distance in kinematic equations, contributing to the complexity of the problem.

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physics help please...

a person with a mas of 75.0 kg is wearing roller blades and stands at rest on top of a long hill. the hill makes an angle of 15.0 above horizontal. assume the coefficient of friction to be .10.

a. determine the acceleration of a the person as they roll down the hill.. for this one i got around 1.55 m/s^2.. but my other friend got a different answer soo i am wandering if anyone could help me..

b. assuming the hill to be 300. meters long, that the person starts from rest, and that the acceleration remains constant the entire length of the hill, determine the person's speed at the bottom of the hill.

for b .. are we suppose to solve for distance or just use 300 in a kinematic equation?
 
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Ereny said:
a. determine the acceleration of a the person as they roll down the hill.. for this one i got around 1.55 m/s^2.. but my other friend got a different answer soo i am wandering if anyone could help me..
Show how you got your result.

for b .. are we suppose to solve for distance or just use 300 in a kinematic equation?
You're given the distance, so use it.
 
for a. i set up like this :
Fnet= Fll - Friction
ma=sin(15)*(mg)-u*(mg)
(75kg) a=sin(15)(75kg)(9.81)-(0.10)(75kg)(9.81)
a= 1.55 m/s^2

is it right..

and to do B i have to know acceleration from a
 
Ereny said:
for a. i set up like this :
Fnet= Fll - Friction
ma=sin(15)*(mg)-u*(mg)
Almost right. The friction force equals μN, where N is the normal force. Since it's on an incline, the normal force doesn't just equal mg. What does it equal?
 
it equals the weight.. which is mass*gravity.. that's wt i did..
 
Ereny said:
it equals the weight.. which is mass*gravity.. that's wt i did..
That would be true if the surface were horizontal, but it's not. To find the normal force, consider force components perpendicular to the surface. They must add to zero.
 
yeah but we don't have to use the perpendicular fore.. we could just use the parallel force...
and i am really confused now... can u please help me out a little more
 
Ereny said:
yea i know that... because they're parallel to each other.. can u please tell me if the answer is right..
You are using the wrong normal force. The normal force depends on the angle of the surface.

Read this: Inclined Planes
 
the normal force is the weight .. and it doesn't depend on the angle.. okay if i am using the wrong normal force wts the correct one then..
 

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