Suggestion No need to cheat on homework assignments

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A retired gentleman expresses a desire for a dedicated forum for older individuals seeking help with Physics problems, emphasizing the joy of learning rather than cheating. He initially misunderstood the existing homework forum, thinking it was prohibited due to concerns over cheating. Another member clarifies that the forum allows assistance but prohibits outright solutions to maintain academic integrity. There is a discussion about the balance between collaboration and individual understanding in homework help, with some advocating for complete solutions while others stress the importance of personal effort. The conversation highlights the need for clear guidelines on homework assistance within the community.
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Hi All,

I am a 64 year old retired gentleman with a modest academic background in Physics. At this stage of my life, I am studying Physics for the pure beauty and joy of the subject and, as such, have no need to cheat on homework assignments.

May I suggest that a special forum be set up for people like myself who would like to discuss and may need help in actual Physics problems. Admission to this forum would be based upon proof of age such as the submission to a moderator of some sort of identification indicating the age of the member.

Thank you for considering this.

Bob
 
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What's wrong with our current HW/Coursework forum?

The way that forum is set up, it isn't simply for something that is officially a HW/Coursework content. Anyone wishing to work on that type of problem can go through the same steps and learn on to solve such things, be it for a school work or not. The learning process is the same.

Zz.
 


ZapperZ said:
What's wrong with our current HW/Coursework forum?

The way that forum is set up, it isn't simply for something that is officially a HW/Coursework content. Anyone wishing to work on that type of problem can go through the same steps and learn on to solve such things, be it for a school work or not. The learning process is the same.

Zz.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that there was a forum devoted to homework. It isn't allowed on the other forums and I thought the reason was that homework help could be regard by some as cheating.

Now I know where to go for help on actual Physics problems.

Thank you,
Bob
 


Wannabeagenius said:
I'm sorry. I didn't realize that there was a forum devoted to homework. It isn't allowed on the other forums and I thought the reason was that homework help could be regard by some as cheating.

This is why we prohibit members from giving outright solutions. In the end, the member asking for help will get assistance in solving such problem, but the bulk of the work will be the responsibility of that member.

Zz.
 


I don't see the problem of giving complete worked out solutions. Students who would abuse that to cheat on graded homework assignenments will pay the price at the exam. The courses I've taught always had some overlap between homework assignments and exam questions. Students are informed about this in advance. I explained that students are allowed to collaborate with each other on homework problems, as long as they make sure that whatever they hand in is what they can now do themselves.

If the exam result of a student is inconsistent with the grades for homework assignments, then I'll invite the student for some questioning. A number of things could have gone wrong (e.g. student was ill during exam). Letting the student solve some problems on the blackboard is a good way to find out. I can then revise either the exam grade or the homework grades.
 


Count Iblis said:
I don't see the problem of giving complete worked out solutions.

Then you need to start a different thread and give your suggestion to change the current PF Rules. As it stands now, this is not allowed.

Zz.
 
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