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that a thread about why the world does not exist does not exist?
No Thread Here: Proving Why the World Does Not Exist
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the concept of existence, particularly questioning the notion of whether the world exists. It touches on philosophical, mathematical, and physical interpretations of existence, while also incorporating literary references and humor.
Discussion Character
- Philosophical, Conceptual clarification, Meta-discussion
Main Points Raised
- Some participants suggest that a thread about why the world does not exist raises questions about existence itself.
- In a Platonian context, one participant argues that the concept exists because it is imaginable.
- Another participant proposes that in the physical sense, it is necessary to examine whether the world never existed or if an annihilator operator is involved.
- From a mathematical perspective, it is claimed that the world does not exist due to a lack of proper definition.
- Philosophically, one participant notes that the question of existence remains undecided, referencing a search for meaning that has led to confusion.
- Several participants share literary quotes that reflect on the nature of reality and existence, suggesting a shared interest in exploring these themes through poetry.
- One participant humorously notes that philosophical threads are no longer hosted, implying a playful skepticism about existence itself.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a variety of views on existence, with no consensus reached. The discussion includes both serious philosophical inquiry and light-hearted literary references, indicating a blend of perspectives without resolution.
Contextual Notes
The discussion includes references to literary works that may not be familiar to all participants, highlighting the subjective nature of interpretation and understanding of existence.
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In the Platonian context, it exists, because it is imaginable.epenguin said:
In the physical sense, it has to be examined, whether it never existed, or whether there was an annihilator operator in place.
In the mathematical sense, it is true that it does not exist, because nobody properly defined it.
In a philosophical sense, it is still undecided. Someone has been sent to find out, but he got lost in the library while searching for the meaning of "existence".
Btw: A mysterious note had been found this morning reading: So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish.
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wrobel
Science Advisor
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just come to memory by an association...
Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow —
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.
I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand —
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep — while I weep!
O God! Can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?
Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow —
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.
I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand —
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep — while I weep!
O God! Can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?
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That reminded me of, then I thought it is too well known, then I thought again with such an international and intergenerational membership maybe it will be new to somebody:
The other day upon the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
How I wish he'd go away!
The other day upon the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
How I wish he'd go away!
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OCR
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I think it will always be new to somebody .....epenguin said:
I've always thought it was such a classic piece of work.....
epenguin said:
I'm glad you did,.
.and for those that don't know, the name of the poem is ... "Antigonish" , and the author was Hughes Mearns .And, thank you ....
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Evo
Staff Emeritus
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Yeah, we don't host philosophical threads anymore. Probably because you don't exist.epenguin said:
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