Non-Uniform Circular Motion: Locomotive Rounding a Curve

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A locomotive rounding a curve with a radius of 2.10 km accelerates tangentially at 0.440 m/s², while its total acceleration is measured at 0.760 m/s². The discussion highlights the importance of understanding that total acceleration is the vector sum of centripetal and tangential accelerations. Participants clarify that radial acceleration can be expressed as v²/R, rather than involving mass. The original poster struggles with the calculations due to confusion over the equations, particularly regarding the use of mass, which is not provided in the problem. The conversation emphasizes correcting the approach to find the locomotive's speed accurately.
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Homework Statement



As a locomotive rounds a circular curve of radius 2.10 km (which would be 2100 m to keep all the units the same), its speed is increasing at a rate of 0.440 m/s2. An instrument in the cab (an accelerometer) indicates that the magnitude of the locomotive's total acceleration at a particular instant is 0.760 m/s2. What is the locomotive's speed at that instant?

After I got it wrong the first few times, I was also given the hint: "The total acceleration is the VECTOR sum of the centripetal acceleration and the tangential acceleration."

Homework Equations



The equations I have in my notes regarding non-uniform circular motion are:
Radial Acceleration: Ar = -(mv^2)/R

Tangential acceleration: At = d|v|/dt

and Total Acceleration: Atot = √(Ar^2 + At^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



To solve, would it be correct to do the following:

Ar = √(Atot^2 - At^2)

And then sub that number into

V = √((RAr)/(-m)

But, if I were to do that, I would get the square root of a negative number, which is an irrational number, which I can't have as a velocity?

Is there a better way to go about this question? What am I doing wrong?
 
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Becca93 said:
The equations I have in my notes regarding non-uniform circular motion are:
Radial Acceleration: Ar = -(mv^2)/R
The negative sign just indicates that the acceleration is towards the center. Just worry about the magnitude.

Otherwise your approach is fine.
 
Doc Al said:
The negative sign just indicates that the acceleration is towards the center. Just worry about the magnitude.

Otherwise your approach is fine.

But there is no 'm' given in the question, and I don't know how to get radial acceleration any other way.
 
Becca93 said:
But there is no 'm' given in the question, and I don't know how to get radial acceleration any other way.
Oops, I didn't see that. Your equation is not quite right:
Becca93 said:
The equations I have in my notes regarding non-uniform circular motion are:
Radial Acceleration: Ar = -(mv^2)/R
That's the centripetal force. The radial acceleration is just v^2/R.
 
Doc Al said:
Oops, I didn't see that. Your equation is not quite right:

That's the centripetal force. The radial acceleration is just v^2/R.

I must have copied it incorrectly during class. Thank you!
 
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