Non-Uniform Circular Motion problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a ball swinging in a vertical circle, where the total acceleration is given in vector form. Participants express confusion about how to approach the vector diagram and the significance of the direction of the swing, particularly concerning the angle of 36.9°. There is a debate on whether the angle should be considered to the left or right, with some arguing that the direction does not affect the calculations for radial acceleration, speed, and velocity. Clarification is sought on how to accurately represent the problem in a diagram, emphasizing the importance of understanding the vertical circle's orientation. Ultimately, the consensus is that the direction can be chosen for convenience without affecting the final answers.
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"Non-Uniform Circular Motion" problem

Homework Statement


A ball swings in a vertical circle at the end of a rope 1.50 m
long. When the ball is 36.9° past the lowest point on its
way up, its total acceleration is (-22.5 i + 20.2j) m/s^2. At
that instant, (a) sketch a vector diagram showing the components
of its acceleration, (b) determine the magnitude
of its radial acceleration, and (c) determine the speed and
velocity of the ball.



Homework Equations


a = v^2 / r
a(total) = a(tangent) + a(radial)


The Attempt at a Solution


For starters, I don't even know how to approach a), in all honesty. Since the problem doesn't tell me in which direction the rope is spinning, I don't know where to start. However, I have a feeling that the problem doesn't need to tell me this based on the information regarding total acceleration.
Also, even though the total acceleration is expressed in that format, I seriously doubt that the unit vectors are ar and at. If I knew how to draw this, I'll probably be able to figure out the rest of the problem...
 
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It's a vertical circle.There is the weight of the ball downwards and tension of string at an angle.
And yes the unit vectors i and j are not along the radial and transverse directions. If you would draw the problem keeping in mind that the plane of the circle is vertical it would be easier.
 


All right, I get that much. However, I'm still unable to determine if it's 36.9o to the left, or to the right...
 


How does it matter?
 


[PLAIN]http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs030.snc1/3190_91017112564_509877564_2512520_5779508_n.jpg

According to this solution, it does...
 
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Bump.

I don't mean to offend anybody, but can anyone explain why the solution goes 36.9 degrees to the right, and no to the left?
 


If you were to look at the setup from the other side the rope would go left. If the diagram is already sketched there is no harm in referring the directions as left or right for convenience.
 


So you're saying that I could draw it in either direction, and I could still get the diagram, along with b) and c) correct. Am I following you correctly?
 


Bump...
 
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yes.
 
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