Norm inequality, find coefficients

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The problem involves finding positive coefficients \(a\) and \(b\) such that \(a||x||_{\infty} \leq ||x|| \leq b||x||_{\infty}\). The context centers around the equivalence of norms in a vector space.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to begin solving the problem and question the definitions of the norms involved. Some suggest that the problem relates to the equivalence of norms, while others inquire about the dimensionality of the space and the specific definitions of the norms.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on definitions and attempting to establish a foundational understanding of the norms involved. Some have suggested exploring specific cases, such as \(n=2\), to aid in visualizing the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find coefficients a,b>0 such that a||x||≤||x||≤b||x||.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


No idea how to get started. Help will be appreciated.
 
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lep11 said:

Homework Statement


Find coefficients a,b>0 such that a||x||≤||x||≤b||x||.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


No idea how to get started. Help will be appreciated.

You must have tried something? You must have thought something? Share it with us because you are required to show some effort.
 
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Math_QED said:
You must have tried something? You must have thought something? Share it with us because you are required to show some effort.
I have no idea how to find the coefficients...and I am not expecting you to do my homework.

it has something to do with equivalence of norms?
 
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How is [itex]\|x\|[/itex] defined?
How is [itex]\|x\|_{\infty}[/itex] defined?
What is the dimension of the space on which these norms are defined?
 
lep11 said:
I have no idea how to find the coefficients...and I am not expecting you to do my homework.

it has something to do with equivalence of norms?

Yes, that is exactly what the problem is about---showing how to prove norm equivalence.
 
What space is ##x## a member of? How are the norms defined?
 
lep11 said:

Homework Statement


Find coefficients a,b>0 such that a||x||≤||x||≤b||x||.

Homework Equations


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pasmith said:
How is ∥x∥ defined?
How is ∥x∥ defined?
@lep11, definitions of these two norms would have been useful in the (empty) Relevant equations section.
 
pasmith said:
How is [itex]\|x\|[/itex] defined?

##\|x\|:=(\sum_{i=1}^{n} x_i^2)^½##
pasmith said:
How is [itex]\|x\|_{\infty}[/itex] defined?
[itex]\|x\|_{\infty}[/itex]:=max{|x1|,...,|xn|}

pasmith said:
What is the dimension of the space on which these norms are defined?
x∈Rn, so dimension of the space is n.
 
lep11 said:
##\|x\|:=(\sum_{i=1}^{n} x_i^2)^½##

[itex]\|x\|_{\infty}[/itex]:=max{|x1|,...,|xn|}x∈Rn, so dimension of the space is n.

Why don't you look first at the case of ##n=2##, where you can easily draw pictures and make ##(x_1,x_2)##-diagrams to help you focus your thinking?
 
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At 9 posts into this thread, the OP still has not shown an attempt -- thread closed.

@lep11, you may start another thread on this question, but you MUST show some effort or there will be consequences.
 

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