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The Associated Press reports that Barack Obama has chosen Joe Biden as his vice presidential running mate, a decision seen as a strategic balance given their differing political styles. Biden's experience and ability to be an "attack dog" are viewed positively, although concerns arise about both candidates' tendencies to be verbose. There is debate over the decision not to select Hillary Clinton, with some arguing it could alienate voters who supported her in the primaries, while others believe it avoids potential backlash from Republican voters. The discussion also touches on Biden's past criticisms of Obama, raising questions about their evolving relationship. Ultimately, the choice reflects a broader strategy to unify the Democratic party and appeal to a wide voter base in the upcoming election.
  • #31
I'm independent, but I'm a permanent resident alien so I don't vote. Maybe it's a good time to become a citizen - in which case I'd probably run for Congress - which is the only compelling reason to become a citizen.
 
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  • #32
rbj said:
:smile:

that would make for pretty good bumper stickers. sort of like the Bush-Satan 2004 stickers of 4 years ago.

I expect Karl Rove has already had a couple of thousand Obama Bin Biden stickers printed up by now.
 
  • #33
Astronuc said:
I'm independent, but I'm a permanent resident alien so I don't vote. Maybe it's a good time to become a citizen - in which case I'd probably run for Congress - which is the only compelling reason to become a citizen.

That's one way to get access to affordable health insurance.
 
  • #34
Astronuc said:
I'm independent, but I'm a permanent resident alien so I don't vote. Maybe it's a good time to become a citizen - in which case I'd probably run for Congress - which is the only compelling reason to become a citizen.
You would not because you wouldn't cut your hair or shave or wear a suit or shoes. :-p
 
  • #35
Evo said:
You would not because you wouldn't cut your hair or shave or wear a suit or shoes. :-p

The shoes would be the killer.

No shirt, no shoes, no service I think is a posted sign in the Congressional Cafeteria.
 
  • #36
"The Barefoot Congressman" has a certain ring to it, though.
 
  • #37
Math Is Hard said:
"The Barefoot Congressman" has a certain ring to it, though.

Grassroots appeal no doubt.
 
  • #38
One thing about a barefoot Congressman would be they likely wouldn't be caught in a public restroom soliciting undercover officers.

The idea that one's congressman would be in the mens room - barefoot - would be too damaging.

(Presumably he would wash his feet as well as his hands. But still... ewe.)
 
  • #39
LowlyPion said:
One thing about a barefoot Congressman would be they likely wouldn't be caught in a public restroom soliciting undercover officers.

The idea that one's congressman would be in the mens room - barefoot - would be too damaging.

(Presumably he would wash his feet as well as his hands. But still... ewe.)
EWE!

I still remember (sort of) the story my first grade teacher told about the men and the "EEWEES". At least I will remember that they are not "EEWEES". And, no Danger, it wasn't that kind of story. :redface:
 
  • #40
Evo said:
EWE!

I still remember (sort of) the story my first grade teacher told about the men and the "EEWEES". At least I will remember that they are not "EEWEES". And, no Danger, it wasn't that kind of story. :redface:

With sheep there's lots of directions you can go that are ewe.
 
  • #41
LowlyPion said:
With sheep there's lots of directions you can go that are ewe.
Lots of directions? :eek:
 
  • #42
Evo said:
Lots of directions? :eek:

OK. Several then.
 
  • #43
Hahaha Look what Google found!

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:kcaQk5Zo_boJ:articles.latimes.com/2008/08/23/news/na-obamakaine23+%3Chttp://articles.latimes.com/2008/08/23/news/na-obamakaine23&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
 
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  • #44
WarPhalange said:
Hahaha Look what Google found!

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:kcaQk5Zo_boJ:articles.latimes.com/2008/08/23/news/na-obamakaine23+%3Chttp://articles.latimes.com/2008/08/23/news/na-obamakaine23&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Oh how funny! It's the modern version of http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4884/deweymh3.jpg"
 
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  • #45
WarPhalange said:
Hahaha Look what Google found!

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:kcaQk5Zo_boJ:articles.latimes.com/2008/08/23/news/na-obamakaine23+%3Chttp://articles.latimes.com/2008/08/23/news/na-obamakaine23&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
They had probably prepared a news story in advance announcing each of the likley candidates so they would be ready to release the correct one ASAP and try to jump the competition. This is normal. usually, this would have remained on their intranet and not publicly viewable. They seem to have taken it off the server, but the page was already cached.

Too funny.
 
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  • #46
I sometimes wonder how many celebrity obituaries are written in advance.
 
  • #47
Math Is Hard said:
I sometimes wonder how many celebrity obituaries are written in advance.
I've read that they do have a lot of canned film footage ready for tv news and probably the same for the written press.
 
  • #48
Math Is Hard said:
I sometimes wonder how many celebrity obituaries are written in advance.
All of them. I read an article about it once, it's disturbing.

Here's one:
It’s never been a secret that when people die after long and distinguished careers, those detailed stories about their passing that major news organizations seem to produce almost instantaneously in fact were written well in advance.

Now news that The Associated Press has prepared an obituary for 26-year-old Britney Spears has put the spotlight on a debate transpiring within the business of reporting death: With people grabbing the celebrity spotlight at a younger age, and some of them living lives of obviously dangerous excess, is it time for news organizations to begin preparing for early exits from celebritydom’s under-30 crowd? ...

The AP has approximately 1,000 prepared obituaries in its files on a wide variety of public figures. [emphasis added]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22757427
 
  • #49
Evo said:
You would not because you wouldn't cut your hair or shave or wear a suit or shoes. :-p
and the problem with that is . . . . ? :biggrin:
 
  • #50
Evo said:
I find this to be weird and don't quite know what to think of it.


Obama says Joe Biden is ready to be president

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling his running mate, Joe Biden, "a leader who is ready to step in and be president."


:rolleyes: I guess Obama doesn't think he'll make it for 4 years? What kind of a signal is he sending?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes

To understand Obama's comment, keep in mind the history of the office of the vice president. Before the 20th century the clear role of the VP was to be "the first person in the presidential line of succession", and also a minor role as a senate tie breaker. These are the powers established by the constitution, and the framers intended the VP to have little other duties.

John Adams was the first VP and he said it was "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived." After John Adams, the next time that a VP attended a cabinet meeting was 1918, under Woodrow Wilson. FDR established the continuing tradition of inviting the VP to all cabinet meetings, and Nixon did a lot of work to make the office into more of a visible policy shaping role, perhaps made possible by the circumstances of Ike's exceptionally poor (among presidents) health.

The point is that Obama's statement is simply addressing the most important traditional criterion for choosing a VP, his readiness to assume the office.
 
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  • #51
Cheney some how assumed powers which equaled or surpassed those of the president. I wonder how that will go down in the history books?
 
  • #53
turbo-1 said:
He will be the biggest assassination target ever to take the White House. He is fully cognizant of that. I hope that's not the message he is sending with that statement, but it's got to be on peoples' minds, and may need to be addressed, however subtly. Even now, prior to the convention, the SS detail guarding him probably sees bull's eyes painted on him everywhere he goes. Their job cannot be an easy one - it only takes one loon with a lucky break to take out someone who is in the public eye so frequently.

Is this really a signal/message? He also said, "Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it." Maybe it's nothing more than fatigue.
 
  • #54
He said "fifty seven" instead of "forty seven" ... okay. Wouldn't you think that was just a slip of the tongue? Did he repeat this on other occasions?
 
  • #55
A slip, yes. But people have been all over it, just as when he called Biden the next president. Snopes covers it with explanation: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

Even I slip in conversation, and I think everyone does. Which is why I don't think he's sending a message or signal.

snopes said:
The actual intent behind Senator Obama's misstatement is easy to discern without the need to invoke an obscure international organization. He was trying to express the thought that in all the time he had spent on the campaign trail so far in 2007-08, he had visited all (48) of the states in the continental U.S. save for one (i.e., "one left to go," excluding Alaska and Hawaii), but in his weariness he slipped up and started off with "fifty" instead of "forty." (Note the long pause in the video clip between the words "fifty" and "seven.")
Looks like the same kind of mistake in verbal processing.

At work recently a coworker asked if I was conceiving her. She meant to say "deceiving". We've been playing with that ever since.
 
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  • #56
russ_watters said:
Probably as not happening, since it didn't. :rolleyes:

Are you kidding. Cheney has had more power than any Vice President in history ( I don't think we even need a link for that):rolleyes: He has claimed that his office is not a part of the executive branch and then from the other side of his mouth has claimed executive privilege.

Vice President Dick Cheney has asserted his office is not a part of the executive branch of the U.S. government, and therefore not bound by a presidential order governing the protection of classified information by government agencies, according to a new letter from Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., to Cheney.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/06/21/2021/

One only need to watch Buying The War to see who has really been in charge of the executive branch.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html
 

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