I'll give a more complete post-mortem tomorrow, but I think the election was - ironically - much more about Romney (and a Frankenstorm) than Obama. There were a number of big moments where Romney came up short.rootX said:I don't know if Obama did really well or Romney just goofed off. Romney had a good chance to win but he just failed to prove how he is going to handle economy.
It was a really big challenge for Obama to win and I think Obama deserves some credit for getting reelected in tough times.
russ_watters said:I'll give a more complete post-mortem tomorrow, but I think the election was - ironically - much more about Romney (and a Frankenstorm) than Obama. There were a number of big moments where Romney came up short.
Yes, what I'm hearing is that the Republican party is out of touch with the mainstream, younger generation and changing demographics.mathwonk said:I am watching tv now and all the commentators, including republican apologists, are saying that their party cannot survive if it does not abandon its anti - gay, anti - immigrant, stance. this alone is a tremendous advance for america. i hope the day of intolerance and racism is again losing its grip on our politics.
mathwonk said:I am watching tv now and all the commentators, including republican apologists, are saying that their party cannot survive if it does not abandon its anti - gay, anti - immigrant, stance. this alone is a tremendous advance for america. i hope the day of intolerance and racism is again losing its grip on our politics.
If the commentators are saying that, they're being disingenuous, particularly about immigration. Republicans are not anti-immigration, they are anti-illegal immigration.mathwonk said:I am watching tv now and all the commentators, including republican apologists, are saying that their party cannot survive if it does not abandon its anti - gay, anti - immigrant, stance. this alone is a tremendous advance for america. i hope the day of intolerance and racism is again losing its grip on our politics.
I suppose by definition if you are 1% away from the center you are not in the mainstream, but that's a pretty small margin. Also, yes, the Republican party is the party of old people, definitely. But it isn't like that has changed in decades. What changes is the young people that vote Democrat get older and switch to Republican.Evo said:Yes, what I'm hearing is that the Republican party is out of touch with the mainstream, younger generation and changing demographics.
chemisttree said:I still think Romney's loss had it's roots in the "Stupidest Statement by a Presidential Candidate, Ever".
Not much, if at all. This is from analysts saying it had little, if any, effect, and being in the midwest, Sandy was a non-event for us. Probably the same for most of the US.CAC1001 said:I wonder how much Hurricane Sandy affected the election. Obama benefited a lot by having that very blunt Republican, Chris Christie, praise him big-time.
I wonder how much Hurricane Sandy affected the election. Obama benefited a lot by having that very blunt Republican, Chris Christie, praise him big-time.
Evo said:Not much, if at all. This is from analysts saying it had little, if any, effect, and being in the midwest, Sandy was a non-event for us. Probably the same for most of the US.
People here don't know who Christie is and the storm was "whatever", we deal with tornadoes and horrendous weather systems every year. People near me are still dealing with the Joplin tornado, 160 dead in just one part of town. The Alabama tornadoes, 350 dead.
ParticleGrl said:According to the poll aggregators like Nate Silver, not very much. The polls correctly predicted every state race, so its probably safe to say they were a decent representation of public opinion.
I see, good to know. One other thing I was wondering is if there is a population of people who in healthy economic times would have voted for Romney, but due to the lack of employment opportunities, and considering how Romney was talking about cutting this and that, were fearful that they might lose their homes and so forth if Romney was elected, and thus voted for Obama.
Angry Citizen said:I'm more curious whether Republicans will accept that this was a referendum against their ideology, and has nothing to do with hurricanes (which, if anything, would suppress the vote), bailouts (which affected only one swing state, which was not necessary in the Obama machine), or the job security of voters.
Pythagorean said:So what's his first move going to be? What's he working on tomorrow morning?
Most inept? You think Bachmann, Santorum, Trump, and Cain were more viable options?Chronos said:The republicans possibly put up the most inept challenger available in an election that was theirs to lose.