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Homework Statement


Suppose there is an object that is a distance ##r_0## from the center of a planet that is nearby (the object is outside the surface of the planet).
Let ## r ## represent the distance from the object to the planet's center.
Let ## t ## represent time.
The object, which is initially at rest, is being lifted upwards directly away from the planet's center with a constant force such that the magnitude of the object's acceleration due to this force, ##a##, is greater than the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity, ##g(r)##, for ##r_0\leq r< \infty##.
Determine the rate of change of ##r## with respect to time.

Homework Equations


## g = \frac{GM}{r^2} ##
##F_{net} = F - mg## (one dimension)

The Attempt at a Solution


This is a 1-dimensional problem. As the object moves farther from the planet, it becomes lighter, due to the decreasing ##g##. So it should become easier for the force to lift the object.

Dividing the second relevant equation by ##m## gives

## a_{net} = a - g ##.

Initially the object starts at rest at ##r_0##, and ## r ## increases with respect to time. Integrating ##a_{net}## twice with respect to ##t## will give us the additional distance traveled by the object.

##r = r_0 + \frac{a_{net}}{2}t^2##

##r = r_0 +\frac{a-g}{2}t^2##

Rewriting ##g## in terms of ##r## gives

##r = r_0 +\frac{a- \frac{GM}{r^2} }{2}t^2##

##2r = 2r_0 + at^2 - \frac{GM}{r^2}t^2 \qquad##.

At this point I try separating the variables, but I lack experience in solving DEs and I get stuck:

##2\frac{dr}{dt} = 2at - GM [ -\frac{2t^2}{r^3} \frac{dr}{dt} + \frac{2t}{r^2} ]##

##2\frac{dr}{dt} = 2at + \frac{2GMt^2}{r^3} \frac{dr}{dt} - \frac{2GMt}{r^2} ##

##\frac{dr}{dt} = at + \frac{GMt^2}{r^3} \frac{dr}{dt} - \frac{GMt}{r^2} ##

##dr = at \cdot dt + \frac{GMt^2}{r^3}dr - \frac{GMt}{r^2} dt##

I should point out that this is not technically a homework problem, as I'm not taking classes at the moment. This is just something I've been thinking about and I wanted to practice my math. Therefore I'm not really sure how to go about it, what prerequisites I need to solve it, and I will not be able to check for correct answers. I used only what I know and remember, which is basic calculus and basic physics. If someone could tell me what I need to review, that would help.

Please point out any mistakes I might have made, conceptual or otherwise, or if I left out some important information. I haven't taken a physics course in three or so years, so if I have messed up somewhere I'd greatly appreciate any necessary corrections. Also if solving this problem requires some advanced mathematics, mention which topics.

Thank you.
 
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Puff Cube said:
Initially the object starts at rest at r0r_0, and r r increases with respect to time. Integrating aneta_{net} twice with respect to tt will give us the additional distance traveled by the object.

##r=r0+anet2t2r = r_0 + \frac{a_{net}}{2}t^2##

##r=r0+a−g2t2r = r_0 +\frac{a-g}{2}t^2##

This formula only applies to constant acceleration, so it's simply not application in the case of changing gravity.

Puff Cube said:
At this point I try separating the variables, but I lack experience in solving DEs and I get stuck:

##2drdt=2at−GM[−2t2r3drdt+2tr2]##

This is not right at all. It's not at all clear what you are trying to do here.

A better approach to this problem is to consider energy.
 
Never mind, I've tried it again and got this:

$$ a_{net}(r) = a - g(r) $$
$$ a_{net}(r) = a - \frac{GM}{r^2} $$

So it looks like, if I'm not mistaken, I would need to find a solution to the following DE (which I won't):

$$ \frac{ d^2 r(t)}{d t^2} = a - \frac{GM}{r(t)^2}. $$

I made WolframAlpha solve it analytically, and the solution was not pretty. So yeah, I guess that's it. Unless anyone would like to add something.
 
Puff Cube said:
Never mind, I've tried it again and got this:

$$ a_{net}(r) = a - g(r) $$
$$ a_{net}(r) = a - \frac{GM}{r^2} $$

So it looks like, if I'm not mistaken, I would need to find a solution to the following DE (which I won't):

$$ \frac{ \partial^2 r(t)}{\partial t^2} = a - \frac{GM}{r(t)^2}. $$

I made WolframAlpha solve it analytically, and the solution was not pretty. So yeah, I guess that's it. Unless anyone would like to add something.

You can get a first order differential equation (i.e. a single integral) using energy calculations.

Note that you should have simply the normal time derivative here; not a partial derivative.
 
PeroK said:
You can get a first order differential equation (i.e. a single integral) using energy calculations.

Note that you should have simply the normal time derivative here; not a partial derivative.

I saw it and fixed it before I even saw your post :cool:.

As for energy, I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with physics concepts to go down that route.
 
Puff Cube said:
As for energy, I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with physics concepts to go down that route.
You can get the same result by multiplying the whole DE by ##\dot r## and integrating. However, it gives ##\dot r## as a function of r, not of t.
 
haruspex said:
You can get the same result by multiplying the whole DE by ##\dot r## and integrating. However, it gives ##\dot r## as a function of r, not of t.

I tried it:

$$ \ddot{r} = a - \frac{GM}{r^2} $$
$$ \ddot{r} \dot{r} dt = ( a - \frac{GM}{r^2} )\dot{r} dt $$
$$ \frac{ d \dot{r} }{dt} \dot{r} dt = ( a - \frac{GM}{r^2} ) \frac{dr}{dt}dt $$
$$ \dot{r} d \dot{r} = ( a - \frac{GM}{r^2} ) dr $$

integrating, I get

$$\frac{1}{2} \dot{r}^2 = ar + \frac{GM}{r} + c $$
$$ \dot{r} = \sqrt{ 2(ar + GM \frac{1}{r} + c) }$$

Is this correct?
 
Puff Cube said:
I tried it:

$$ \ddot{r} = a - \frac{GM}{r^2} $$
$$ \ddot{r} \dot{r} dt = ( a - \frac{GM}{r^2} )\dot{r} dt $$
$$ \frac{ d \dot{r} }{dt} \dot{r} dt = ( a - \frac{GM}{r^2} ) \frac{dr}{dt}dt $$
$$ \dot{r} d \dot{r} = ( a - \frac{GM}{r^2} ) dr $$

integrating, I get

$$\frac{1}{2} \dot{r}^2 = ar + \frac{GM}{r} + c $$
$$ \dot{r} = \sqrt{ 2(ar + GM \frac{1}{r} + c) }$$

Is this correct?
Yes.