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Olympic games hockey - warm up

  1. Dec 22, 2005 #1

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    Who do you think will win?

    The Swedish team was recently presented:
    Goalies:
    Stefan Liv, HV 71
    Mikael Tellqvist, Toronto
    Henrik Lundqvist, NY Rangers
    Defenders:
    Nicklas Lidström, Detroit
    Mattias Norström, Los Angeles
    Mattias Öhlund, Vancouver
    Kim Johnsson, Philadelphia
    Christian Bäckman, St Louis
    Kenny Jönsson, Rögle
    Niklas Kronwall, Detroit
    Forwards:
    Henrik Zetterberg, Detroit
    Peter Forsberg, Philadelphia
    Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa
    Mats Sundin, Toronto
    Fredrik Modin, Tampa Bay
    Samuel Påhlsson, Anaheim
    Markus Näslund, Vancouver
    Per-Johan Axelsson, Boston
    Mika Hannula, HV 71
    Jörgen Jönsson, Färjestad
    Mikael Samuelsson, Detroit
    Daniel Sedin, Vancouver
    Henrik Sedin, Vancouver
     
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  3. Dec 22, 2005 #2

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    Slovakia:

    Goalies: Peter Budaj, Colorado, Karol Krizan, Modo, Jan Lasak, Pardubice.
    Defenders: Zdeno Chara, Ottawa, Ivan Majesky, Washington, Andrej Meszaros, Ottawa, Martin Strbak, CSKA Moskva, Radoslav Suchy, Columbus, Lubomir Visnovsky, Los Angeles, Milan Jurcina, Boston.
    Forwards: Lubos Bartecko, Luleå, Peter Bondra, Atlanta, Pavol Demitra, Los Angeles, Marian Gaborik, Minnesota, Michal Handzus, Philadelphia, Marcel Hossa, New York Rangers, Marian Hossa, Atlanta, Richard Kapus, Metallurg Novokuznetsk, Ladislav Nagy, Phoenix, Miroslav Satan, New York Islanders, Jozef Stupel, Florida, Marek Svatos, Colorado, Richard Zednik, Montreal.
     
  4. Dec 22, 2005 #3

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    Canada:

    Goalies: Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Marty Turco.
    Defenders: Rob Blake, Adam Foote, Ed Jovanovski, Scott Niedermayer, Chris Pronger, Wade Redden, Robyn Regehr.
    Forwards: Simon Gagne, Jarome Iginla, Joe Sakic, Ryan Smyth, Shane Doan, Kris Draper, Dany Heatley, Vincent Lecavalier, Brad Richards, Rick Nash, Martin St Louis, Joe Thornton, Todd Bertuzzi.
     
  5. Dec 22, 2005 #4

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    Czech republic:

    Goalies: Dominik Hasek, Ottawa, Milan Hnilicka, Bili Tygri, Liberec, Tomas Vokoun, Nashville.
    Defenders: Frantisek Kaberle, Carolina, Tomas Kaberle, Toronto, Filip Kuba, Minnesota, Pavel Kubina, Tampa Bay, Marek Malik, New York Rangers, Jaroslav Spacek, Chicago, Marek Zidlicky, Nashville.
    Anfallare: Jan Bulis, Montreal, Petr Cajanek, St Louis, Martin Erat, Nashville, Milan Hejduk, Colorado, Ales Hemsky, Edmonton, Jaromir Jagr, New York Rangers, Robert Lang, Detroit, Rostislav Olesz, Florida, Vaclav Prospal, Tampa Bay, Petr Prucha, New York Rangers, Martin Rucinsky, do, Martin Straka, do, David Vyborny, Columbus.
     
  6. Dec 22, 2005 #5
    canada will of course own that tournament, just as we did last year at the world cup & @ the world jrs.
     
  7. Dec 22, 2005 #6

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    I am sooooooo glad that the Canadians didn't pick Brendan Shanahan. Even though he is scoring a lot this year so far, I think he's a cherry-picking, non skating sloth that is not deserving of his "power forward" status any longer. That guy floats more than a boat when he's on the ice.

    All team allegiances aside, I really thought Thomas Holmstrom was going to get the nod for the Swedes this time around. I do think the Swedes are going to be the team to beat this time around.

    PS the US team was announced. Why didn't you post them?????
     
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  8. Dec 22, 2005 #7

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    US Olympic Hockey Team:

    Goaltenders:
    Rick DiPietro
    Robert Esche
    John Grahame

    Defensemen:
    Chris Chelios
    Derian Hatcher
    Jordan Leopold
    John-Michael Liles
    Aaron Miller
    Brian Rafalski
    Mathieu Schneider (YEAH!!!)

    FORWARDS:
    Jason Blake
    Erik Cole
    Craig Conroy
    Chris Drury
    Scott Gomez
    Brian Gionta
    Bill Guerin
    Mike Knuble
    Mike Modano
    Mark Parrish
    Brian Rolston
    Keith Tkachuk
    Doug Weight

    Mike Knuble? Geeze. The US is screwed.
     
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  9. Dec 22, 2005 #8

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    For once real sports at Pf :biggrin: .

    The roster of Team Canada deserves a bow, but I think the World Cup was otherwise a good indication of how things will turn out.

    Team Finland

    Goalies

    Miikka Kiprusoff, Calgary Flames
    Kari Lehtonen, Atlanta Thrashers
    Fredrik Norrena, Linköping

    Defenders

    Aki Berg, Toronto Maple Leafs
    Toni Lydman, Buffalo Sabres
    Teppo Numminen, Buffalo Sabres
    Joni Pitkänen, Philadelphia Flyers
    Sami Salo, Vancouver Canucks
    Kimmo Timonen, Nashville Predators
    Ossi Väänänen, Colorado Avalanche

    Forwards

    Jukka Hentunen, Lugano
    Olli Jokinen, Florida Panthers
    Niko Kapanen, Dallas Stars
    Sami Kapanen, Philadelphia Flyers
    Mikko Koivu, Minnesota Wild
    Saku Koivu, Montreal Canadiens
    Antti Laaksonen, Colorado Avalanche
    Jere Lehtinen, Dallas Stars
    Antti Miettinen, Dallas Stars
    Ville Peltonen, Lugano
    Jarkko Ruutu, Vancouver Canucks
    Tuomo Ruutu, Chicago Blackhawks
    Teemu Selänne, Anaheim Mighty Ducks
     
  10. Dec 22, 2005 #9
    has the russian team not announced yet. Depending on the russian team...i'd say canada czech,slov,fin,swede,russ top 6 not in that order

    gonna cheer for canada if russia doesn't put out a decent roster
    CANADA
    has everything
    CZECHs
    will give canada a run for their money...gotta love the matchup hasek vs brodeur. But the Czech have forwards that turned their careers around in jagr/rucinsky. hmmm no straka? Wonder how well their D is..i hate T. kaberle.
    SWEDES
    goalie will be the iffy but their forwads and lidstrom/ohlund may just carry them over

    FINS
    have a dominate goalie in kiprusoffand pretty fast lines, never knew salo was a fin..and you look toward numinem to punish any forward. I'd say there D core is the iffy for this team

    SLOVS
    No goalie but they have CHARA...he's like to defence..but the plus side is they actually get to bring all their NHL players this time...something they were never able to do because of the nhl schedule(or was that for the worlds) they probably have one of the faster teams out there.


    This is what I want
    canada/russ, fin/slov, czech, swede,
    But i think it'll be
    canada, czech, fin,swede, slov, russ
     
  11. Dec 23, 2005 #10

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  12. Dec 23, 2005 #11

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    Russians vs. Czechs for gold and silver, U. S. loses bronze to Finland.
     
  13. Dec 23, 2005 #12

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    Bystander,
    I can't believe that you have completely left out Canada for contention. Canada will definitely get farther than the US. In the olympic format, I don't see the US getting to the medal rounds. I guess we'll see.
     
  14. Dec 23, 2005 #13
    ya the us doesn't have richter this time around
     
  15. Dec 23, 2005 #14
    what other teams are there?

    are finland and norway too in the poll for the ice hockey competition?
     
  16. Dec 23, 2005 #15

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    It's an average, personal, impression of who is and who ain't performing in the NHL this season, "performance" including "getting the job done" even when the regular supporting cast isn't on the ice.
     
  17. Dec 23, 2005 #16
    yeah nuts i just heard the news last night. kiprusoff ain't going that bytes.

    Do the olympics use the same rules as the new NHL? i thought they didn't

    since kiprusoff is out and i found out the russian lineup
    canada/russ, slov/czech, swede/fin
    But i think it'll be
    canada/russ, czech, swede, slov, fin

    oh and can someone post the russian lineup, funny they missed teh deadline go BURE.
     
  18. Dec 23, 2005 #17

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    You're right. They do not use the same rules. Olympic rules will always favor the better skating/faster teams.

    Anyone have any line on whether Canada should have had Sydney Crosby in the line up? I know he's young, but he is the leading scorer on Pittsburgh. Any thoughts, any comments, any anecdotes...?
     
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  19. Dec 23, 2005 #18

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    No Crosby show ... I think the arguments for favoring experience sound pretty good, mean he's spectacular, but still 18 .... if Canada could send 2 teams in that case.

    Russia;

    Goalies
    Nikolai Habibulin, Chicago Blackhawks
    Jevgeni Nabokov, San Jose Sharks
    Ilja Bryzgalov, Mighty Ducks of Anaheim

    Defenders
    Andrei Markov, Montreal Canadiens
    Sergei Gontshar, Pittsburgh Penguins
    Daniil Markov, Nashville Predators
    Aleksei Zhitnik, New York Islanders
    Anton Voltshenkov, Ottawa Senators
    Darius Kasparaitis, New York Rangers
    Dmitri Bykov, Dinamo Moskova
    Fjodor Tjutin, New York Rangers

    Forwards
    Aleksei Kovalev, Montreal Canadiens
    Pavel Datsjuk, Detroit Red Wings
    Ilja Kovaltshuk, Atlanta Thrashers
    Maksim Afinogenov, Buffalo Sabres
    Jevgeni Malkin, Metallurg Magnitogorsk
    Aleksandr Ovetshkin, Washington Capitals
    Maksim Sushinski, Dinamo Moskova
    Aleksei Jashin, New York Islanders
    Aleksandr Frolov, Los Angeles Kings
    Viktor Kozlov, New Jersey Devils
    Aleksei Zhamnov, Boston Bruins
    Aleksandr Haritonov, Dinamo Moskova

    ...... I'm impressed, no Fedorov, Mogilny, Samsonov, Zubov - but other than those guys everyone seems to be present.
     
  20. Dec 23, 2005 #19
    perennial are you using a russian to english keyboard?

    mogilny will never play for russia. after what happen...which sucks cuz i'm a big almo fan since his sabres days(though he is a bit lazy) and i'm a big russian fan.
    [] i'm surprised 3 dynamo players took spots from russians.
    [] almost thought they didn't have zhitnik
    [] i'm surprised tverdovsky,zubov not so much of a surprise(zubov isn't having a stellar year) mm whats that other allstar defenceman shoot forget his names he played for the canes i think always named with tverdovsky.
    [] fedorov i don't think wanted to play.
    [] samsonov i think wants to recover.

    i wanna see them put malkin/ovechkin/kovalchuk on the smae line

    As for the Crosby issue: I can only see him replacing a taxi squad member who will replace one of 4 draper/doan/bertuzzi/nash. I doubt nash will be removed because he is also apart of canada's future...bertuzzi plays the same style as nash but i think he deserves a second chance after all he was only really protecting naslund. Draper i read was on for defensive reasons...not really sure abot doan. I'm kinda disappointed that mccabe isn't on there even though he leads the nhl...Obviously he was picked cuz of his defensive defiencies but the leafs have no defensive core...I see him being a 3rd line D with priority on teh Powerplay.
     
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  21. Dec 24, 2005 #20

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    Yeah, seems like McCabe won't ever make it, tough luck Leafs fans .... or they did put him on 'reserve' I think. Yeah - actually come to think of it, the spots Crosby would be playing (or where he'd be most useful) are currently occupied by such names he'll have to wait until the next 'big' tournament to make it. Great to see how Ovechkin performs with an actual team around him.

    Oh right, I've a Scandic keyboard - think forgot to do some editing in previous posts :tongue2: .

     
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