On the orthogonality of the rotation matrix

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The discussion revolves around the properties of rotation matrices in the context of vector transformations. The original poster explores the relationship between the invariance of vector lengths under rotation and the orthogonality condition of the rotation matrix, specifically questioning the necessity of the condition \( R_{ij} R_{ik} = \delta_{jk} \) when the length of a vector remains unchanged.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to establish the necessity of the orthogonality condition by analyzing the invariance of vector lengths. Some participants question the implications of this invariance for arbitrary vector combinations, such as \( (\vec{x} + \vec{y})^2 \).

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Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical relationships involved, with some providing corrections and clarifications to earlier statements. There is a focus on ensuring that the conditions hold for all vectors, and the discussion is exploring the implications of these conditions without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is an emphasis on the requirement that the invariance of vector lengths must apply universally to all vectors, which raises questions about the assumptions underlying the rotation matrix properties.

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Homework Statement
Show how the rotation matrix is orthogonal in three dimensional Euclidean space ##E_3## when it acts on vectors. Remember that rotation should preserve the length of the vector.
Relevant Equations
If the vector ##\mathbf x = x_i \hat e_i## is acted on by a rotation matrix ##\mathbb {R}##, we obtain a different (rotated) vector ##\mathbf x' = x'_i \hat e_i##, where ##\boxed{x'_i = R_{ij} x_j}##, ##R_{ij}##'s being the components of the rotation matrix ##\mathbb {R}##.

The length of a vector ##|\mathbf{x}|^2 = x_i x_i##.
Let me start with the rotated vector components : ##x'_i = R_{ij} x_j##. The length of the rotated vector squared : ##x'_i x'_i = R_{ij} x_j R_{ik} x_k##. For this (squared) length to be invariant, we must have ##R_{ij} x_j R_{ik} x_k = R_{ij} R_{ik} x_j x_k = x_l x_l##.

If the rotation matrix components supported the relation ##\boxed{R_{ij} R_{ik} = \delta_{jk}}##, we find that the above equation would hold good, ##l## being a dummy variable which can be replaced by ##j## or ##k##.

However, I have proved sufficiency : Given that ##R_{ij} R_{ik} = \delta_{jk}##, the length of a vector remains unchanged.

I am stuck as to the necessity : If the length of a vector is given to be unchanged, show how ##\boxed{R_{ij} R_{ik} = \delta_{jk}}##.

A help as to prove the necessary condition would be welcome.
 
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brotherbobby said:
we must have ##R_{ij} x_j R_{ik} x_k = R_{ij} R_{ik} x_j x_k = x_l x_l##.

And, e.g., ##x_l = \delta_{jl} x_j##.
 
For necessity note that the condition that ##\vec{x}^2## is unschanged must hold for all vectors ##\vec{x}##. What can you conclude for ##(\vec{x}+\vec{y})^2## where ##\vec{x}## and ##\vec{y}## are arbitrary vectors?
 
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vanhees71 said:
For necessity note that the condition that ##\vec{x}^2## is unschanged must hold for all vectors ##\vec{x}##. What can you conclude for ##(\vec{x}+\vec{y})^2## where ##\vec{x}## and ##\vec{y}## are arbitrary vectors?

Let me write out the equations as you put it.

As the arbitrary vector ##\vec x## would have its (squared) length unchanged, we can say that ##\left( \vec x + \vec y \right)^2 = \left( \vec x + \vec y \right)^2 = \left( \vec x' + \vec y' \right)^2 = \left( \rm R \vec x + \rm R \vec y \right)^2 \Rightarrow \vec x^2 + \vec y^2 + 2 \vec x \cdot \vec y = (\rm R \vec x)^2 + (\rm R \vec y)^2 + 2 R_{ij} R_{ik} x_i x_j##.

For this to be valid, seeing the last term, we have ##\boxed{R_{ij} R_{ik} = \delta_{jk}}##.

Thank you very much.

Please let me know if I have been correct when you have the time.
 
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Of course the last term in your long equation should be ##2 R_{ij} R_{ik} x_i y_j##. Then, since ##(R \vec{x})^2=\vec{x}^2## and ##(R\vec{y})^2=\vec{y}^2## you have from your equation necessarily ##R_{ij} R_{ik} x_j y_k=\delta_{jk} x_j x_k## which means, since this has to hold for any ##\vec{x}## and ##\vec{y}## that ##R_{ij} R_{ik}=\delta_{jk}##. In matrix notation this reads ##R^{\text{T}} R=1##, where ##R^{\text{T}}## is the transposed matrix, i.e., writing the columns of ##R## as the rows of ##R^{\text{T}}##.
 

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