Operating Torque out of Flywheel

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SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the challenges of calculating the operating torque from a flywheel connected to an induction motor via a gear system with a gear ratio of 10. The induction motor requires a variable operating torque, exemplified by 3.86 Nm, to generate electricity effectively. The participants highlight that increasing the RPM through gearing reduces torque proportionally, and they emphasize the importance of accounting for friction losses in the gear system. The conversation suggests exploring alternative motors or direct drive systems to improve efficiency.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of torque and power equations, specifically E = 1/2*w^2*I and Power = Tw.
  • Knowledge of gear ratios and their impact on torque and RPM.
  • Familiarity with induction motors and their operational requirements.
  • Basic principles of energy storage in flywheels and oscillating systems.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the effects of gear ratios on torque and RPM in mechanical systems.
  • Investigate alternative motor options that can handle higher torque without gearing.
  • Learn about friction losses in gear systems and their impact on overall efficiency.
  • Explore methods to calculate force exerted on gears using energy stored in flywheels.
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Engineers, mechanical designers, and students involved in energy harvesting systems, particularly those working with flywheels and induction motors.

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Homework Statement


Hello, we have built a system in which energy is harvested through the use of an oscillating fin, this energy is stored within a flywheel which operates at a frequency f, we are then connecting this flywheel, via a smaller gear (gear ratio = 10) to an induction motor which should generate electricity.

The induction motor has a set Operating Torque (it is variable but an example would be 3.86Nm) and Speed (once again variable but an example is 1380) it must operate at to generate the desired amount of power. We are controlling the speed it must operate at using the gear system to gear up the rotational speed of the flywheel, however we are struggling to confirm if the correct amount of Torque will be carried through to let the induction motor generate the correct amount of power.

We know the total amount of energy stored in the flywheel (area under the power curve) and we know what the power curve for the oscillating fin is. We also know the dimensions of the flywheel and therefore the dimensions for the smaller gear connected to the induction motor.

Homework Equations



E = 1/2*w^2*I
Work = Force * Distance
Power = Tw

The Attempt at a Solution


I have initially used to the instantaneous power harvested by the fin and divided it by the angular velocity to find the instantaneous Torque however these values seem much too high, (typically find about 8e4 Nm using this method).

I believe that the answer is related to the radius of the smaller gear, and the Force exerted on the belt round the gear, this will equal the torque acting on the centre of the smaller gear and therefore the torque acting on the induction motor. However I do not know how to find the force being exerted on the smaller gear. Is it possible to find this using the energy stored in the flywheel for 1 cycle or using the instantaneous power curve for 1 cycle?[/B]
 
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LiamH1 said:
I have initially used to the instantaneous power harvested by the fin and divided it by the angular velocity to find the instantaneous Torque however these values seem much too high, (typically find about 8e4 Nm using this method).

That should give the right answer. Can you show your working?

Gearing up the rpm gears down the torque. So increasing the rpm by a factor of 10 reduces the torque by a factor of 10.

If there are any friction losses in the small gear bearings those appear magnified by 10 at the flywheel. In general stepping up is a bad idea. Could you use a different motor with more turns and a direct drive?

PS: I'm away from my computer for the next few days but hopefully another person can help.
 

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