Optical Ray Tracing - "Y N U" Method & Aperture Stops

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The discussion revolves around the "y n u" ray trace method used in optical systems, particularly focusing on the concepts of a-ray and b-ray tracing, as well as the identification of aperture stops. Participants explore the application of these methods in evaluating complex optical systems, including those with multiple lenses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the "y n u" ray trace method and expresses interest in discussing a-ray and b-ray tracing.
  • Another participant provides definitions for a-ray and b-ray, explaining their roles in relation to the aperture stop and light passage through the optical system.
  • A participant notes that the a-ray is also known as the "Marginal ray" and the b-ray as the "Chief ray," linking them to concepts like numerical aperture and magnification.
  • Discussion includes a hypothetical scenario involving a complex optical system with 20 lenses, prompting inquiries about identifying the aperture stop using the discussed methods.
  • Participants suggest methods for tracing rays and calculating the marginal and chief rays, emphasizing the importance of the aperture stop's location.
  • One participant mentions using Excel to automate ray tracing processes and seeks further clarification on finding the effective aperture stop.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify the process of calculating the marginal and chief rays using linear superposition and provides a method for identifying the aperture stop based on ray tracing results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of a-ray and b-ray, but there are variations in terminology and methods discussed. The conversation remains unresolved regarding the specific techniques for identifying the effective aperture stop in complex systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the concepts, and some responses reference personal experiences or educational contexts that may influence their understanding. There are indications of incomplete or cryptic notes regarding the identification of stops, suggesting potential gaps in the discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for students and professionals in optics, particularly those interested in ray tracing methods and the evaluation of optical systems.

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Is anyone familiar with the "y n u" ray trace method for optical systems, using paraxial rays where Snell's law is approximated using:

n1sinx1 ≈ n1tanx1

≈ n1u1 = n2u2

If anyone is familiar with this, I'd be interested to discuss the finer points of "a-ray" and "b-ray" tracing, as well as aperture stops, as I don't quite understand the methods involved. Thanks.
 
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I'm familiar with y-nu traces (as well as y-y' plots), but I have not heard of a-ray and b-ray traces. Can you giove some more specifics?
 
An a-ray is just an axial ray that goes through the aperture stop. Generally, you find the angle in the object plane that corresponds to when the a-ray just kisses the edge of the aperture stop, AKA the Y height at that point is the radius of the aperture stop.

A b-ray is a ray that goes through the center of the aperture stop. This involves backwards ray tracing, and it helps you to find how much light is coming through the optical system. At the aperture stop surface, the Y height is zero and n*u is determined given whatever parameters you're looking for, such as a certain object half angle or image height.

Anything sound familiar?
 
Yes, now it does. What you call the 'a-ray' is referred to as the "Marginal ray" and is related to the numerical aperture. the 'b-ray' is more commonly called the "chief ray" and the (y,nu) is written with an overbar. The Chief ray is used to determine the magnification, and relates the the field of view.

If you like, the chief and marginal rays are the basis set for all paraxial rays that pass through the optical system, and both are defined by the aperture stop, a physical object that limits the passage of light through an optical system. The marginal and chief rays are used in ray-tracing matrices, and are used to define the optical invariant of the system.

What are you trying to do?
 
I have heard those terms briefly. My professor at the institute of optics at the university of rochester probably just wanted to shorten the terms, so he calls them a and b rays.

Anyways, I'm just trying to get a good grasp of how to evaluate a given optical system using those rays, why you might use them, that sort of thing.

Say, for example, you've got an optical system with 20 lenses, you're given the curvature, the thickness between surfaces, and indices of refraction, and you want to figure out which lense surface acts as the aperture stop for both a distant object and an object at some finite distance. How would you go about doing this?
 
It's been a while since I had to think about this stuff, but here's my thoughts:

1) trace two arbitrary rays through the system-these are what I call the 'a-ray' and 'b-ray'.
2) using superposition, transform these into the chief and marginal rays.
2a) This is done at two planes- the image plane (y= 0) and the aperture stop plane (y-bar = 0). If you don't know where the aperture stop is, you may start to run into problems.
2b) choose the a-ray and b-ray carefully- the a-ray starts at the optical axis (for example), and the b-ray starts at the maximum field height (for example).
3) Now you have the chielf and marginal rays, which you can trace through the whole system and see what's what. For 20 lenses, I hope you take the time and automate the ray trace algorithm.

I don't know of that many people who use ray tracing for anything other than very simple systems- ray tracing has been computerized now, and optical design in general has gotten much more sophisticated.
 
This is simply in the context of the Geometrical Optics course I'm taking. I'm just getting into optics in school, and I am just trying to gain some insight into this method for evaluating optical systems.

I use Excel to automate the process. The 20 lens system was just hypothetical.

Moving on, do you happen to know a way to find the effective aperture stop in the system using this method?
 
It's the location where the Chief ray crosses the optical axis, with a diameter set by the height of the marginal ray.
 
I'm not sure my answer was very useful. Let me try again:

Ok, so you have traced two arbitrary rays through the system, one starting at the optical axis and the other at the maximum field height. Call these (y1, nu1) and (y2, nu2). The next step is to calculate the marginal (y, nu) and chief (y', nu') rays. Becasue paraxial rays obey linear superposition,

y1 = A y + B y'
nu1 = A nu + B nu'

and similarly for y2. At the image plane, y1 = 0 and y = 0 and y' = y2 (image height). At the aperture stop plane, y = Y (radius of stop) and y' = 0. Two sets of equations, solve for the coefficients and then you get the chief and marginal rays.

Now, looking at the list time I did this, I think I knew where the stops were located and I have some cryptic notes which I can't quite decipher. I have the field stop located at the surface with the smallest r/y' (r is the radius of the surface, and not the radius of curvature), and the aperture stop located at the plane with the smallest r/y. But as I said, it's a bit cryptic.
 

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