Optics, involving index of refraction

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The problem involves determining the depth at which a fish can see a 180-degree field of view above the surface of a lake, given the indices of refraction for water and air. The context is optics, specifically relating to light refraction at the water-air interface.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Snell's Law and the concept of critical angles in relation to the fish's field of view. Some express uncertainty about how to approach the problem, while others suggest visualizing the scenario through drawings.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided guidance on visualizing the situation, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the angles involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of specific equations provided for the problem, and participants are grappling with the implications of the indices of refraction on the fish's viewing capabilities. The depth at which the fish can achieve a 180-degree view remains unclear.

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Homework Statement



At what distance below the surface of a lake will a fish have a 180 degree field view above the water surface (if the fish is looking up toward the surface of the lake) ?

-Assume the index of refraction for water to be 1.33 and that of air to be 1.00



Homework Equations



I'm not given any equations for this problem. I'm assuming it has something to do with Snell's Law: (n1)sin(i)=(n2)sin(r) , where n=index of refraction, i=angle of incidence, and r=angle of refraction

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no clue where to start this problem. I feel like I need more information. If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
-Zac
 
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Start it with drawing a picture of the problem.

ehild
 
I have a drawing that shows the viewing area from a point under the water going towards the surface at an unknown angle, then the viewing area widening once it breaks the surface. But I don't understand how to find the depth at which the viewing area is 180 degrees once it breaks the surface.
 
I do not really understand the question. The fish sees everything above water in an angle of view twice the critical angle -no matter at what depth it is. You can calculate the angle from Snell's law. Only the diameter of the circle within everything above water can be seen would change with depth.

ehild
 
This is possibly a weird way to solve the problem, but here it is: I assuming what the problem means is at what distance will the fish see a panoramic 180 degree field of vision (I wasn't quite sure). If your interface is oriented along the y-axis (the surface of the water is parallel to the y-axis) then the widest rays this fish will see will be coming in at theta = 90 and negative 90 degrees. These rays will bend following snell's law at the surface of the water and intersect at a specific point. You're fish needs to be at that point.
 

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