Optimisation - Critical Numbers for Complex Functions.

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The discussion revolves around an optimization problem related to finding critical numbers for a function representing the volume of water at varying temperatures. The formula provided describes the volume of 1 kg of water in relation to temperature, and the goal is to determine the temperature at which water achieves maximum density.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the volume equation in scientific notation and finding its derivative using the power rule. There is a focus on identifying critical points by setting the derivative to zero or undefined. Some participants mention the quadratic nature of the derivative and suggest using a formula to find zeros without factoring.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the nature of the critical points and whether the identified point is a maximum or minimum. There is a suggestion to apply a second-order test to confirm the nature of the critical point. Additionally, participants question the implications of the constraints on temperature and whether they affect the optimization process.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the temperature range from 0°C to 30°C, which may influence the determination of maximum density. There is an acknowledgment of the need to verify assumptions regarding the critical points and the behavior of the function within the specified range.

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Hi everyone, I need a little bit of help with an optimization problem and finding the critical numbers. The question is a follows:

Question:
Between 0°C and 30°C, the volume V ( in cubic centimeters) of 1 kg of water at a temperature T is given approximately by the formula:
V = 999.87 − 0.06426T + 0.0085043T2 − 0.0000679T3

Find the temperature at which water has its maximum density. (Round your answer to four decimal places.)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have done the following steps:
Re-write equation into scientific notation:
V(t)=-6.79x10-5T3+8.5043x10-3T2-6.426x10-2T+999.87

Found Derivative using Power Rule:
V'(t)=-2.037x10-4T2+1.70086x10-2T-6.426x10-2

I need to find critical points, where V'(t)=0 or V'(t)=und.
There are no obvious factors and I need help to find the zero's of the derivative.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Khronos said:
Hi everyone, I need a little bit of help with an optimization problem and finding the critical numbers. The question is a follows:

Question:
Between 0°C and 30°C, the volume V ( in cubic centimeters) of 1 kg of water at a temperature T is given approximately by the formula:
V = 999.87 − 0.06426T + 0.0085043T2 − 0.0000679T3

Find the temperature at which water has its maximum density. (Round your answer to four decimal places.)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have done the following steps:
Re-write equation into scientific notation:
V(t)=-6.79x10-5T3+8.5043x10-3T2-6.426x10-2T+999.87

Found Derivative using Power Rule:
V'(t)=-2.037x10-4T2+1.70086x10-2T-6.426x10-2

I need to find critical points, where V'(t)=0 or V'(t)=und.
There are no obvious factors and I need help to find the zero's of the derivative.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

It's a quadratic equation. There is a formula to find the zeros without factoring. Remember?
 
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Oh dear... of course!... I don't know why I didn't think of that. Thank you so much haha.

The minimum of the function was 3.966514624 degrees for anyone interested.
 
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Khronos said:
Oh dear... of course!... I don't know why I didn't think of that. Thank you so much haha.

The minimum of the function was 3.966514624 degrees for anyone interested.

You were told to find the maximum, while you claim to have found the minimum.

Have you tested whether your point is a maximum or a minimum? Just setting ##V'(T) = 0## will not tell you this; you need to use a second-order test (involving the second derivative ##V''(T)##), or use some other types of tests.

Also: how do you know you should set the derivative to 0 at all? Perhaps the constraints ##0 \leq T \leq 30## mess things up? You need to check that as well.
 

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