Orbital Mechanics Angular Momentum

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The discussion centers on the definitions of angular momentum in orbital mechanics, specifically the relationships involving position vector (r), radial velocity (r_dot), and tangential velocity (rθ_dot). Two definitions are presented: one using h = r x r_dot and another using h = r²θ_dot. The confusion arises from the interpretation of r_dot and its direction relative to angular velocity. The correct expression for angular momentum is confirmed as L = m * r x v, where v is the velocity vector, emphasizing the importance of understanding the inertial frame's center in orbital motion.

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Hello all,

I have a question regarding the precise definition of angular momentum in orbital motion.

I see one definition says angular momentum h, position, r, and radial velocity, r_dot, are related as follows:
h = r x r_dot.

However, I also see one definition that says h is related to r and tangential velocity as follows:
h = r2θ_dot = r* (r*θ_dot)
Where θ_dot is the angular velocity, which makes rθ_dot the tangential velocity.

How come both definitions can be correct at times?
 
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tnich said:
I don't think your first definition makes sense. ##\vec r \times \vec {\dot r} = 0## since ##\vec r## and ##\vec {\dot r}## are in the same direction.
What would make sense is angular momentum ##\vec L =m \vec r \times \vec v##.
It is exactly as written in the book.
Actually, I just figured it out...
In an orbit, the r is defined from the center of the inertial frame. So r2 is rotated from r1 but the root of the vector is still at the inertial center. That means delta_r is a tangential vector that connects r1's vector head to r2's vector head. Making r_dot actually in the direction of the angular velocity.
 
FQVBSina said:
I see one definition says angular momentum h, position, r, and radial velocity, r_dot, are related as follows:
h = r x r_dot.
You may want to check the source of this definition a little more carefully. Here ##r## should be position and ##\dot{r}## should be velocity (not radial velocity) and the expression should be ##r \times m \dot{r}##
 

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