Organic Chemistry Synthesis Possibilities Discussion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the synthesis possibilities in organic chemistry, specifically focusing on the conditions required for a particular reaction involving amines. The scope includes theoretical considerations and exploratory reasoning regarding reaction mechanisms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that no reaction would occur under the initially stated conditions.
  • One participant questions what conditions would be necessary for a reaction to take place.
  • Another participant suggests that oxidation of the amine to either an amide or imine might be required, although they express uncertainty about the specifics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the initial conditions do not lead to a reaction, but there is no consensus on what alternative conditions would be effective, indicating unresolved aspects of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty regarding the specific conditions needed for the reaction and the potential pathways for oxidation, which are not fully explored or defined.

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I was confused on whether the product would be A or B . I think it should be B because it seems more stable than A and even by reaction mechanism logic , B seems to be more likely because the H+ will be a electrophile and attach to N which has a lone pair and form NH2+ and break off the CH3 bond and form CH3+ which goes to OH- and forms methyl alcohol but i wanted to confirm just in case , i am still in high school learning a bit on my own of advanced
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No reaction would happen under these conditions.
 
Mayhem said:
No reaction would happen under these conditions.
What would be the conditions required ?
 
PhysicsEnjoyer31415 said:
What would be the conditions required ?
Not sure. You would probably have to oxidize the amine (either to amide or imine) and find a way to work from there.
 
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