Orthogonal complement of a subspace

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The problem involves finding a basis for the orthogonal complement of a subspace W, which is spanned by three given column vectors in R4. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the dimensionality of the orthogonal complement based on the assumption of linear independence of the spanning vectors.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find the orthogonal complement by using the relationship between the column space of a matrix and the null space of its transpose. They raise a question about the expected dimension of the orthogonal complement based on their understanding of the spanning vectors' independence.

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Participants are exploring the implications of linear dependence among the spanning vectors. Some participants question the assumption that the three vectors are linearly independent, which is crucial for determining the correct dimension of the orthogonal complement.

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The original poster notes that the vectors should be represented as column vectors and expresses uncertainty about the dimensionality of the subspace W based on the information provided.

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Let W be the subspace spanned by the given column vectors. Find a basis for W perp.

w1= [2 -1 6 3] w2 = [-1 2 -3 -2] w3 = [2 5 6 1]
(these should actually be written as column vectors.




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So, I put these vectors into a matrix and took its transpose since the orthogonal complement of the column space of a matrix equals the null space of the transpose.

I row reduced the transpose and got null(A transpose) = span{ [-4 1 0 3] , [-3 0 1 0]}
(Again, these should be written as column vectors)

This is the correct answer, but I thought that I should have gotten a null space with dimension one. The three vectors that span W "live" in R4 and the basis for W has dimension three. 4 - 3 =1, so shouldn't the dimension of W perp = 1?
 
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You're sure that w1, w2 and w3 actually span a 3 dimensional space, are you?
 
That would only be true if the three original vectors were linearly independent (i.e., if the space they span had dimension 3). Is this true?
 
Ok, I see. 3*w1 + 4*w2 = w3. I guess I just assumed that when it said a subspace W spanned by the vectors w1,w2,& w3, that those vectors would form a basis for W.
 

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