Orthogonality of eigenfunctions with continuous eigenvalues

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The discussion revolves around the orthogonality of eigenfunctions associated with continuous eigenvalues in quantum mechanics. The original poster seeks to establish an orthonormal set for these eigenfunctions and to demonstrate completeness through the condition | a(k) |^2 = 1.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial steps involving integrals and conditions for orthogonality, noting that the integral equals zero only when k' equals k. There is confusion regarding the integration variable, with some suggesting it should be over k rather than x.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering pointers and questioning the setup of the problem. There is a focus on ensuring the correct definitions and integrations are applied, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention discrepancies between their work and course notes or quantum mechanics textbooks, indicating potential misunderstandings or missing information regarding the integration process and normalization conditions.

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Homework Statement



With knowledge of the orthogonality conditions for eigenfunctions with discrete eigenvalues, determine the orthonormal set for eigenfunctions with continuous eigenvalues. Use the definition of completeness to show that | a(k) |^2 = 1.

2. The attempt at a solution

The first step is:

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Since the integral is only equal to 0 when k' = k. (The same condition as the kronecker delta.)

Next:

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http://g.imageshack.us/img352/94213081to0.jpg/1/

After here I get a bit lost, even though I think this is almost the solution. My work differs from the course notes and a QM book I've looked through. They both have an integration with respect to k for the RHS, not x.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
 
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jazznaz said:

Homework Statement



With knowledge of the orthogonality conditions for eigenfunctions with discrete eigenvalues, determine the orthonormal set for eigenfunctions with continuous eigenvalues. Use the definition of completeness to show that | a(k) |^2 = 1.

2. The attempt at a solution

The first step is:

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5229/81115215vg1.jpg
http://g.imageshack.us/img55/81115215vg1.jpg/1/

Since the integral is only equal to 0 when k' = k. (The same condition as the kronecker delta.)

no. the right hand side is always equal to zero except when k'=k

Next:

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9519/94213081to0.jpg
http://g.imageshack.us/img352/94213081to0.jpg/1/

After here I get a bit lost, even though I think this is almost the solution. My work differs from the course notes and a QM book I've looked through. They both have an integration with respect to k for the RHS, not x.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

The very first line is incorrect. The RHS should not be integrated over x but rather over k.
 
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Should I integrate the RHS w.r.t. k, multiply both sides by the conjugate of Phi and then integrate both sides over x?
 
jazznaz said:
Should I integrate the RHS w.r.t. k, multiply both sides by the conjugate of Phi and then integrate both sides over x?

First... get the definition of [itex]\psi(x)[/itex] in terms of a(k) and [itex]\phi_k(x)[/itex] correct.

Then square psi(x) (which is in terms of a(k) and phi(k,x) now) and integrate over x using the "first step" you mention in the OP.

Use the fact that psi(x) is normalized to see that a(k) is is normalized.
 

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