Oscillating mechanical systems. find maximum velocity and acceleration ?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum velocity and acceleration of an oscillating mechanical system involving a mass-spring setup. Participants explore the mathematical relationships governing the system's motion and engage in problem-solving related to the dynamics of oscillations.

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  • One participant confirms that the amplitude of the oscillation is 0.01 m based on the initial displacement of 10 mm.
  • Another participant provides formulas for maximum velocity and acceleration, indicating that these occur at specific points in the oscillation cycle.
  • Calculations for maximum velocity and acceleration are presented, with one participant calculating maximum velocity as 0.2582 m/s and maximum acceleration as 6.6667 m/s² using the derived angular frequency.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the mass required to produce double the maximum velocity calculated, with different participants suggesting values of 0.075 kg and 0.15 kg based on their calculations.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their previous calculations and seeks verification from others.
  • Another participant agrees with the calculations of a peer and suggests using the doubled maximum velocity to find the new mass.
  • One participant mentions that their previous answers were incorrect but notes that they passed overall, indicating some uncertainty in their understanding.

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Participants generally agree on the method to calculate maximum velocity and acceleration, but there is disagreement regarding the mass required to achieve double the maximum velocity, with different values proposed and calculations presented without consensus on the correct answer.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on assumptions about the system's parameters, such as the spring constant and mass. There are unresolved discrepancies in the proposed mass values for achieving double the maximum velocity, indicating potential differences in interpretation or calculation methods.

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Oscillating mechanical systems. find maximum velocity and acceleration !?

A mass of 0.3 kg is suspended from a spring of stiffness 200 N m–1. If the mass is displaced by 10 mm from its equilibrium position and released, for the resulting vibration

A) Calculate maximum velocity
B) Calculate maximum acceleration

I need help with this please, for starters is the amplitude 0.01m?

Thanks
 
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Yes, amplitude is correct, you must have had some training :smile:. Welcome to PF. There are a ton of googleable resources out there. Check them out, give the problem a try and come back with some specific questions.
 


Ok thanks

I think I've got it now

using:-

v=- ωA sin(ωt - φ)
a= - ω2A cos(ωt - φ)

And the maximums occur when sin(ωt - φ)=1 and cos(ωt - φ)=1

Thanks again!
 


omega = square root (k/m) = 25.82

a) 0.001 x 25.82 x 1 = 0.2582 m/s

b)0.001 x 25.82^2 x 1 = 6.6667 m/s^2

Anybody care to have a go at the last question:-

d) the mass required to produce double the maximum velocity
calculated in (b) using the same spring and initial deflection

I get an answer of 0.075kg

Thanks
 
bensm0 said:
omega = square root (k/m) = 25.82

a) 0.001 x 25.82 x 1 = 0.2582 m/s

b)0.001 x 25.82^2 x 1 = 6.6667 m/s^2

Anybody care to have a go at the last question:-

d) the mass required to produce double the maximum velocity
calculated in (b) using the same spring and initial deflection

I get an answer of 0.075kg

Thanks

would this not be 0.15kg?

ω = √k/m = 200/0.15 = 36.51

b)0.001 x 36.51^2 x 1 = 13.33 m/s^2 = double Vmax

I know this is a late response to a question but i have the same question and want to check my working.

(thanks in advance)
 
Eddievic,

I got the same answers as bensm0,

If you double the answer that you got in a) 0.5164
use that in your equations and transpose for mass.

i think :)
 
justadaftspark said:
Eddievic,

I got the same answers as bensm0,

If you double the answer that you got in a) 0.5164
use that in your equations and transpose for mass.

i think :)

I believe you are correct my paper came back and mine was incorrect the paper was an overall pass though so I have not investigated it fully.
 

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