Oscillation frequency of electrons in atoms (Bohr model)

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The discussion centers on calculating the oscillation frequency of electrons in atoms using the Bohr model. The participant utilized the force equation F = (Ze^2)/(4 * π * e0 * R^3) * r and the frequency equation f = sqrt(k/m) * 1/(2π) to derive the frequency. Key constants included the vacuum permeability (e0 = 8.854 x 10^-12 m) and the mass of the electron (m = 9.31 x 10^-31 kg). The participant faced challenges in obtaining correct values and sought clarification on the appropriate constants and units for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



For force,

F = (Ze^2)/4 * pi * e0 * R^3) * r

f = sqrt(k/m) * 1/2pi

Where e0 = vacuum permeability, 8.854 x 10^-12m
and r = radius of hydrogen atom, 5.3 x 10^-11m

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried just plugging in values,

For the first one, Ze = 1, right? Edit: I had an epiphany. Is e the constant (1.6 x 10^-19)? If so that makes a lot more sense. I tried it, still got the wrong answer though.

So:

1/(4pi(8.854x10^-12)(.053x10^-9)^3) * (5.3 x 10^-11) = A very large number F.

Then, I use that value of F to plug into the second equation,

f = sqrt(F/m) * 1/(2pi) and I get an extremely large number. Note that for m I use 9.31 x 10^-31 kg -- is that right, or should I be using .511MeV/c^2?

Should I be using units in terms of meters or nanometers?

What kind of numbers should I be looking for? Will the frequency be extremely large? I don't have many tries left so I'd like to be sure my answer is right before submitting again. Thanks!
 
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I understand a bit more now -- I know what z and Z stand for, and to plug 1.44 for e^2/4pi.
 

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