Our galaxy is one of the biggest

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The discussion revolves around the claim that our galaxy is one of the biggest in the universe, exploring the mathematics and methods behind this assertion, as well as the implications of the observable universe and the challenges in measuring galaxy sizes.

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  • One participant questions the mathematical basis for determining the size of our galaxy relative to others, expressing skepticism about how such claims can be verified without counting all galaxies.
  • Another participant states that there are about a hundred billion galaxies in the visible universe and that many have been observed, suggesting that our galaxy is larger than most, though its exact percentile ranking is uncertain.
  • A different participant notes that broadcast media often lacks the time for rigorous qualification of statements, implying that the term "universe" may refer to the observable universe and discussing the observed uniformity of matter distribution in the cosmos.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the informative replies and reflects on the challenges of understanding the observable universe.
  • Another participant highlights the difficulties in gauging the sizes of distant galaxies, indicating that even the size of the Milky Way is still a matter of debate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the size of our galaxy and the methods of measuring galaxy sizes. There is no consensus on the exact ranking of our galaxy's size or the implications of the observable universe.

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Participants acknowledge limitations in measuring galaxy sizes and the challenges posed by the vastness of the universe, as well as the dependence on definitions of "universe" and "size."

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Heard that line on one of those science channel shows. Forget who they were interviewing. But my question is what is the mathematics behind discovering this fact? How could we possibly know that our galaxy is one of the biggest in the Universe unless we counted all or most of them, how could we form an average consensus? And isn't it still up for debate whether or not our Universe is limitless/infinite. How could a claim like this be made and furthermore verified?

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There are about a hundred billion galaxies in the visible universe. We've observed many tens of thousands of those galaxies (at least). So we've got a pretty good idea about how many galaxies of each size there are. And yes, there are galaxies that are much, much larger than our own (the biggest of these are found at the centers of galaxy clusters). I think by "one of the biggest" they mean "bigger than most galaxies". Which is true. I don't know exactly where in the distribution ours falls. It might be 80th percentile (meaning 80% of galaxies are smaller), 90th percentile, or 99th percentile. But either way, our galaxy is pretty big compared to most.
 
On broadcast media there simply isn't time (or interest) for careful rigorous qualification of every statement.

The speaker may have been talking about the sizes of galaxies that we can see. Also when they say universe they often mean the observable portion of it. Also we observe a lot of uniformity. the farther out you look the more it seems that matter is more or less evenly distributed. The galaxies are in earlier stages of development because we look back in time, but what we see of them then is consistent with what we see closer to us in distance and time. So there is a lot of observed sameness.

It's customary to assume (what Einstein called the Cosmological Principle) that kind of uniformity, and experience over many decades has born it out.
 
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Wonderful replies very informative
Chanlnoth, that's what I thought as well. I know we scan the night skies constantly so it would make sense. The observable Universe is always something that I find hard to grapple with. There is just so much more out there to discover...
 
Gaging the size of distant galaxies is a challenge, even the size of our own Milky Way remains debatable.
 

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