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The discussion centers on the impact of Sarah Palin's selection as the vice-presidential candidate for John McCain's campaign. Initial reactions highlighted her appeal to women, but the conversation quickly shifted to criticisms of her qualifications and the controversies surrounding her, such as her daughter's pregnancy and various ethical issues. Despite these controversies, many supporters remained loyal, attributing her popularity to her charisma and ability to connect with conservative values. Critics argue that her lack of substantial experience and knowledge in complex political matters undermines her candidacy. The dialogue also touches on the broader implications of the election process, suggesting that it has devolved into a popularity contest rather than a serious evaluation of candidates' qualifications and policies. Participants express frustration over the perceived ignorance of voters who support candidates based on superficial traits rather than substantive issues, leading to concerns about the future of democracy and informed decision-making in elections.
  • #801
LowlyPion said:
I've been pretty much on the fence. Couldn't you tell?

lol - You're not a Fence Post Turtle are you?

Just as a funny, I'll pass this along.


While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, ' Well, you know, Palin is a post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.

The old rancher said, ' When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle.'

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.

'You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn’t 't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb *** put her up there to begin with.'


:)
 
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  • #802
Alfi said:
lol - You're not a Fence Post Turtle are you?

Just as a funny, I'll pass this along. While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, ' Well, you know, Palin is a post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.

The old rancher said, ' When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle.'

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.

'You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn’t 't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb *** put her up there to begin with.':)

Very funny. Thanks for posting it.
 
  • #803
Aahhahahah. Post Turtle. <chortle, chortle, snork>
 
  • #804
I hope that you all know more about Canada than Palin even if its not just across the border next door.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081101.wqueduo1101/BNStory/usElection2008/home
Quebec comedy duo prank call Palin
JESSICA MURPHY
The Canadian Press
November 1, 2008 at 5:56 PM EDT
MONTREAL — In an over-the-top accent, one half of a notorious Quebec comedy duo claims to be the president of France as he describes sex with his famous wife, the joy of killing animals and Hustler magazine's latest Sarah Palin porno spoof.
At the other end of the line? An oblivious Sarah Palin.
The Masked Avengers, a radio pairing notorious for prank calls to celebrities and heads of state, notched its latest victory Saturday when it released a recording of a six-minute call with Ms. Palin, who thought she was talking with Nicolas Sarkozy.
Throughout the call, which was making the rounds in U.S. political circles by day's end Saturday, Ms. Palin and the pranksters discuss politics, pundits, and the perils of going hunting with Vice-President Dick Cheney.
“We have such great respect for you, John McCain and I, we love you,” Ms. Palin gushes, evidently unaware she's speaking to an infamous Quebec comedian named Marc-Antoine Audette.
At one point, Ms. Palin even comes close to confirming her intention to one day run for president, when Mr. Audette slyly remarks he can see her taking over the big desk in the Oval office.
“Maybe in eight years,” she replies with a nervous chuckle.
Over the course of the interview, Ms. Palin doesn't seem to realize she's being tricked until Mr. Audette comes clean near the end of the call.
“Ohhhh . . . have we been pranked?” she says. Seconds later, Ms. Palin's aide can be heard taking the phone before the line goes dead.
Throughout the conversation, Mr. Audette drops plenty of clues that something's amiss.
He identifies French singer and actor Johnny Hallyday as his special adviser to the U.S., singer Stef Carse as Canada's prime minister and Quebec comedian and radio host Richard Z. Sirois as the provincial premier.
“We should go hunting together,” Ms. Palin offers when Mr. Audette professes a love of hunting — or, more precisely, killing animals. “We can have a lot of fun together while we're getting work done. We could kill two birds with one stone.”
Mr. Audette then jokes that they shouldn't bring Mr. Cheney on the hunt, referring to the 2006 incident in which the vice-president shot and injured a friend while hunting quail.
“I'll be a careful shot,” responds Ms. Palin, who praises Mr. Sarkozy throughout the call.
“I look forward to working with you and getting to meet you personally — and your beautiful wife, oh my goodness,” she says.
“You've added a lot of energy to your country with that beautiful family of yours.”
Mr. Audette then tells her his wife, Carla Bruni, a singer and former model, was jealous to hear Mr. Sarkozy would be speaking to Ms. Palin.
“Give her a big hug for me,” Ms. Palin responds.
Mr. Audette goes on to describe Ms. Bruni as “hot in bed” and claims she's written a song for Ms. Palin, the French title of which translates as “Lipstick on a Pig.” In English, Mr. Audette says the song is about Joe the Plumber.
Finally, he mentions a notorious Hustler video titled “Nailin' Paylin,” describing it as “the documentary they made on your life.”
“Oh, good, thank you, yes,” Ms. Palin replies.
“That was really edgy,” Mr. Audette says.
“Well, good.”
In an interview Saturday, Mr. Audette told The Canadian Press it wasn't easy setting up the interview with Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate, and described the accomplishment as the pair's biggest triumph to date.
“It really took a lot of work,” he said.
“We had to go through the Secret Service, the people in her entourage. It's the biggest coup so far. We're proud to add (this prank) to our top hits.”
It took the pair, known for securing surreptitious interviews with celebrities, politicians and heads of state, five days to set up the call, Mr. Audette said. The secret to getting powerful people on the line? Time and persistence.
“I wanted to see how (Ms. Palin) was on an intellectual level,” Mr. Audette said, comparing the latest prank to the duo's crank call with pop idol Britney Spears.
“You can see that she's, well, not really brilliant.”
In a statement Saturday, Ms. Palin's team said the vice-presidential nominee was “mildly amused” to learn she was the victim of a prank.
“Gov. Palin was mildly amused to learn that she had joined the ranks of heads of state, including President Sarkozy, and other celebrities in being targeted by these pranksters,” said spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt.
“C'est la vie.”
Mr. Audette, too, was contrite afterward.
“I hope we won't have a one-way ticket to Guantanamo Bay.”
The well-known radio prankster duo of Mr. Audette and Sebastien Trudel have most recently tricked Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger. Other celebrity victims include Ms. Spears and Bill Gates.
In 2007, they conned Mr. Sarkozy himself by impersonating Prime Minister Stephen Harper. And their 2006 call to former French president Jacques Chirac was rated by the BBC as one of the top 30 all-time best moments in radio history.
Known as the “Masked Avengers,” they've been popular on the Quebec comedy scene for a decade.
The Avengers, who have a regular show on Montreal radio station CKOI, will air the full interview on the eve of the U.S. elections. It can also be heard in full on their website www.justiciers.tv
 
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  • #805
jal said:
I hope that you all know more about Canada than Palin even if its not just across the border next door.
Thank you Masked Avengers.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/20...prank-call.htm

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...-punkd-by.html

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  • #806
Here's the video of the call.
Just imagine this woman conducting relations with foreign countries.
JUST IMAGINE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcEiR01QK7o
 
  • #807
You can bet they won't be playing that on FOX.
 
  • #808
She fell for this?

Does she not realize that political protocol would mean it would be ridiculous for the President of a Major European country to call and chit chat with her given that she is a VP candidate? Is she that deluded?

She wasn't listening to anything he was saying. Is this how she would really treat a call from the President of France? OY.
 
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  • #809
Didn't Bush fall for the same thing from Rick Mercer as Candian President Jean Poutine
 
  • #810
Personally I think Obama should pay a million bucks to run that nationally as a 5 minute spot.

And then tell the country to not get punked on Nov 4 and Vote Obama.
 
  • #811
PALIN: it's been great working with the Canadian officials.
It has? Which ones?

Canadian news must really be bad as we haven't heard or read or seen anything at all about Palin working with Canadian officials.
 
  • #812
LowlyPion said:
Here's the video of the call.
Just imagine this woman conducting relations with foreign countries.
JUST IMAGINE.
Gack! I had to stop after "Hello, this is Sarah. . . . We have such great respect for you, John McCain and I. We love you . . . ."

My thoughts echo Evo's questions - this is how Palin would respond to world leaders?!


I suppose it's plausible that a world leader could call a US VP candidate, but it would seem that there would be some prior notification according to some protocol. I don't think world leaders spontaneously call candidates in other countries.
 
  • #813
Astronuc said:
I suppose it's plausible that a world leader could call a US VP candidate, but it would seem that there would be some prior notification according to some protocol. I don't think world leaders spontaneously call candidates in other countries.
And nobody in the office is at all suspicous of someone ringing up - this must be why phishing scams work.
 
  • #814
Makes me wonder if the Palin camp is waiting for big payoffs from Nigeria.
 
  • #815
Astronuc said:
I suppose it's plausible that a world leader could call a US VP candidate, but it would seem that there would be some prior notification according to some protocol. I don't think world leaders spontaneously call candidates in other countries.

In reading another account I understand that it took them 5 days to set up the call, going first through the Secret Service and then her staff.

That right there is cause for concerns of a different sort.

No Caller-ID ?
 
  • #816
LowlyPion said:
In reading another account I understand that it took them 5 days to set up the call, going first through the Secret Service and then her staff.

That right there is cause for concerns of a different sort.

No Caller-ID ?
:smile: It didn't occur to someone to check with the State Department? BTW - the guy posing as Sarkozy didn't sound like Sarkozy.

If Palin was smart, she'd pretend that it was a fake Palin who did the interview.

Maybe Palin should hire Tina Fey to screen her calls. :smile:

Palin is definitely not ready for Prime Time as VP. :biggrin: :rolleyes:

And Eagleberger's comments were spot on, and Cheney has zero credibility at this point.
 
  • #817
Astronuc said:
:smile: It didn't occur to someone to check with the State Department? BTW - the guy posing as Sarkozy didn't sound like Sarkozy.

If Palin was smart, she'd pretend that it was a fake Palin who did the interview.

Maybe Palin should hire Tina Fey to screen her calls. :smile:

Palin is definitely not ready for Prime Time as VP. :biggrin: :rolleyes:

And Eagleberger's comments were spot on, and Cheney has zero credibility at this point.

The germ of the truth likely is that she is desperate to talk with world leaders after others have made such an issue of her "foreign sightseeing experience" nee Foreign Policy Experience. That and after Sarkozy has recently already made the comments about Obama's thoughts on Iran, coupled of course with her own vanity/Diva complex, probably made her predisposed to believe it was real. She just made for easy pickings.
 
  • #818
I will not vote for obama (this does not make me racist,so don't EVEN go there)
I will not vote for obama
I will not vote for obama
I will not vote for obama

from a redneck in a blue state
you can't change my mind
Im voting my conscience,not my party
A right wing "nut job" conservative
A bible thumping christan
I love my country and the US military

I can't believe what I'm reading! The greatest intellects of the western world.You take so much for granted!

I have heard some bad mouth this great country,and despise the US military,which has made this country what it is, putting down people who don't share you points of view,or that do not have your intellectual ability,(and make fun of as if it were a sport),and make judgements of people who worship a Holy God,claiming that it is a form of mental illness!

Do you think you are BETTER? Just because you hold several degrees,wrote five books,were on the david letterman show,and have risen to celebrity status?
Does this make you better?
Does having a superior intellect or having a HOT wife,girlfriend,mistress,make you better??
Were not all men created equal?

What is this? Have you lost your bearings? I love this country,perhaps you don't that is your choice. I serve this great country, I am glad to be a soilder,a patriot,and american and I would lay down my life for yours,so that you may enjoy the freedoms you take so much for granted.How many of you would make the same claim?

I pledge alligence to the flag, I don't fall down and worship it. Sure the US military isn't perfect,nor is any university,college,job, paycheck,wife,person."All have fallen,not one is good,no not one". So we live in a fallen world and we live in a fallen country, and so we have to appoint fallen people to govern us,no one is perfect.

So instead of blindly supporting one candidate,have a look at the other.Throw all bias out the window,forget what I say,what your woman says,what your friends say,what your boss says,what your party says, research more than you have and if you decided you are voting for Obama, then disregard this little address.


By the way,the majority of the military does not like or trust Obama.
SEMPER FI
 
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  • #819
You failed to say why you aren't voting for Obama or why you're voting, I assume, for McCain.
 
  • #820
Jon_ said:
By the way,the majority of the military does not like or trust Obama.
SEMPER FI
BTW, military personnel deployed in the Middle East are contributing to Obama 5-6 times the money that they have given to McCain.

You may have some insight that we do not have, but when people talk with their pocketbooks, it's a pretty fair indication of their sincerity.
 
  • #821
By the way,the majority of the military does not like or trust Obama.
OK. I'll be curious. 51% or 92% or is it a case of an army of ONE?
 
  • #822
Jon_ said:
By the way,the majority of the military does not like or trust Obama.
SEMPER FI

When you invoke the military, one has to be careful to point out who in the military you are discussing.

If it is the officer corps, then they are almost 100% Republican. This means that their support for McCain would be taken for granted. If only 90% supported McCain, that would be shocking.

More enlisted men support Obama.

And even more National Guards support Obama.
 
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  • #824
mgb_phys said:

It is not the first time al-Qaeda and its allies have weighed in on a Western election. Bin Laden released a video message Oct. 29, 2004, days before the U.S. presidential election, warning of plans for further attacks on U.S. targets. Some strategists for Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), the Democratic nominee, have said the timing of the message tipped the balance toward Bush, who defined himself as the anti-terrorism candidate.

BBC news also had something similar.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7684782.stm

I don't think it's good that Al-Qaeda can easily manipulate American politics.
 
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  • #825
Jon_ said:
By the way,the majority of the military does not like or trust Obama.
Wow! In that case, they must be really nuts to do this...
Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama's presidential campaign as they have to McCain's, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080814/military_donations.html
 
  • #827
Ivan Seeking said:
- the difference between support in word only, and truly dedicated support.

Nice avatar, Ivan...
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  • #828
lisab said:
Nice avatar, Ivan...
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I guess it suppose to hypnotize McCain supporters :smile:
 
  • #829
Palin in elite company - linked indelibly in my mind now with Britney Spears as the only other celebrity that didn't catch on they were being punked until they had to be told.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcuh9175VnA

Sadly it turns out Paris Hilton just may have been a better choice than Caribou Barbi.

You just can't buy publicity like this on morning network TV the day before the election.
 
  • #830
Ivan Seeking said:
- the difference between support in word only, and truly dedicated support.

i'm sure they realize that McCain has never been pro-enlisted, even though he's pro-military. if I'm not mistaken, he's blocked legislation that would improve VA and GI Bill type benefits. i believe the reasoning with the anti-re-education move is that it would hurt re-enlistment, and therefore hurt the military. they want guys to feel trapped and with no other options.
 
  • #831
lisab said:
Nice avatar, Ivan...
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  • #832
rootX said:
I guess it suppose to hypnotize McCain supporters :smile:

And it worked!

I do have to wonder about Palin. Based on her lecture at her church, she believes that she and her fellow believers can see the future. Does she find herself in the throws of a spiritual crisis today?
 
  • #833
Ivan Seeking said:
And it worked!

I do have to wonder about Palin. Based on her lecture at her church, she believes that she and her fellow believers can see the future. Does she find herself in the throws of a spiritual crisis today?

I don't think so. This whole VP pick has given her massive publicity. She's a politician, this has been a great thing for her.
 
  • #834
drankin said:
I don't think so. This whole VP pick has given her massive publicity. She's a politician, this has been a great thing for her.

She will be blamed for McCain's loss as the Republicans try to find their souls. The centrists know that Palin is symbolic of the problem with the entire party.
 
  • #835
Ivan Seeking said:
She will be blamed for McCain's loss as the Republicans try to find their souls. The centrists know that Palin is symbolic of the problem with the entire party.

I think her National future is toast. She just doesn't have the gravitas or grasp for being able to engage on the issues. She needs years of study before trying to come back.

That's about like expecting Britney Spears to go for a degree in Quantum Mechanics. (No insult intended to those studying quantum mechanics I should be quick to add.)
 
  • #836
If Stevens wins the election for the Alaskan senate seat, he'll be removed and I think Alaskan law dictates there to be a special election. Palin will probably run as the Republican candidate and win a senate seat to position herself for 2012
 
  • #837
Is there any real chance of Palin being nominated in 2012? I don't have a good sense of Republican Party politics...are there enough centrists dissatisfied with her that they would vote against her in primaries?
 
  • #838
Office_Shredder said:
If Stevens wins the election for the Alaskan senate seat, he'll be removed and I think Alaskan law dictates there to be a special election. Palin will probably run as the Republican candidate and win a senate seat to position herself for 2012

She could of course. But I don't think she will.

I think she runs a bit of a risk in doing that so soon after losing the election for VP. I would suspect she would do better to consolidate her reputation again after being such a public joke and wait for Lisa Murkowski's seat to come up in 2 years.
 
  • #839
It doesn't just matter how many people vote against her, it matters how many people are running against her too. She could wrap up the whole evangelical vote, which very well might constitute half the party. It doesn't necessarily means she'd have a good shot in the general election, but the Republican party's going to have an identity crisis relating to whether it continues going down the same path it has the past eight years, and the question is whether that will carry through to the 2012 primaries.

If Obama has a strong first term, it would be throwing sheep to the slaughter anyway, which should make for an interesting dynamic (that never stopped Walter Mondale though)

EDIT TO ADD:
I think she runs a bit of a risk in doing that so soon after losing the election for VP. I would suspect she would do better to consolidate her reputation again after being such a public joke and wait for Lisa Murkowski's seat to come up in 2 years.

It doesn't matter if you're a national joke as long as you're still popular in your state... the latest I remember reading she still has an approval rating of approximately 2/3s in Alaska (not as high as before the election, but enough to win a senate seat)
 
  • #840
Unless he gets caught with a girl guide in the oval office, Obama is a two term shoe-in.
So the next republican candidate is a sacrificial victim, somebody in the GOP might decide that it is a good way destroying the conservatives before fronting a young charismatic more centrist leader in '16.
That's also what the British conservatives did after the Blair 97 victory.
 
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  • #841
Ben Niehoff said:
Is there any real chance of Palin being nominated in 2012? I don't have a good sense of Republican Party politics...are there enough centrists dissatisfied with her that they would vote against her in primaries?

Normal situation:

Second best way to be the next GOP nominee is to be the runner-up in the previous serious nomination. Reagan runner-up to Ford in '76; nominee in '80. Bush 41 runner-up to Reagan in '80; nominee in '88. Dole runner-up to Bush in '88, nominee in '96. Kemp runner-up to Dole in '96; some loser gets interjected into the '00 campaign. McCain runner-up in '00; nominee in '08. (Who was the runner-up this year? The guy who presented the biggest challenge to McCain or the guy that stayed in the race second longest?)

Third best way is to be an actual VP:
Nixon VP to Eisenhower '53-'00; nominee in '60. Agnew VP to Nixon; resigned and plead "no contest" to tax evasion and money laundering. Ford VP to Nixon; succeeded Nixon, then lost in election. Rockefeller VP to Ford; tossed in a ditch at the next election. Bush 41 VP to Reagan; nominee (and President) in '92. Quayle VP to Bush; never held a political office again. Cheney VP to Bush 43; TBD.

Fourth best way is to be the VP nominee, but only because it gives you a chance to be a real VP. Being a losing VP nominee is the best way to end a political career:
Lodge VP nominee to Nixon in '60; became ambassador to South Viet Nam during Viet Nam war. William Miller VP nominee to Goldwater in '64; never held office again. Dole VP nominee to Ford in '76; finally became Presidential nominee 20 years later. Kemp VP nominee to Dole; never held office again.

Best way to become Presidential nominee:
Bush 43 son of Bush 41; became President.

Palin isn't as smart as past losing VP nominees, so it would be unfair to hold her to the high achievements of past losing VP nominees.

Edit: I didn't want to go all the way back to the 1948 losing VP nominee, since that losing VP nominee did pretty good. Earl Warren went on to be re-elected as Governor California in '50, finished third in delegates for the '52 nomination, then wound up being Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. Interestingly, in 1946, Warren was nominated to run for Governor of California by the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, and the Progressive Party. Not surprisingly, he won the general election that year, as well.
 
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  • #842
Oh boy, here we go. Of all place, Fox being the first one to hit the dirt. They had the inside info all along, but figured now is a good time to release it. Extremely cringe worthy.

Palin thought Africa is a country



Would had; Could had; should not had; maybe; almost; But in the end, didn't
 
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  • #843
phoenixy said:
Oh boy, here we go. Of all place, Fox being the first one to hit the dirt. They had the inside info all along, but figured now is a good time to release it. Extremely cringe worthy.

Palin thought Africa is a country



Would had; Could had; should not had; maybe; almost; But in the end, didn't
That stuff is just too good to hide. It's likely that all this stuff is coming out after the failure of the McCain campaign, as aides play CYA.
 
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  • #844
phoenixy's link there is pretty interesting, even beyond the Africa-is-a-country claim (which the Fox correspondent is really making based on his source, they're not just quoting what another news organization said.)
 
  • #845
Newsweek, according to MSNBC, is reporting more details about the clothes buying in addition to her $150,000 there are reports of $20,000 - $40,000 on Todd and another $20,000 on the kids. Buying 13 suitcases to carry the loot back with? Shopaholic? Not pretty.

The report in the video about her tantrums with clippings and yelling at staff, driving them to tears - that kind of behavior only reinforces my opinion that she has some kind of narcissistic personality disorder. She is simply not suited for National office.

As to the clothes, I've heard the Palins being called in the same MSNBC report on the Newsweek article the "Hillbillies from Wasilla".

It makes me think it's no great wonder West Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky went Republican. (And as usual I mean that in the nicest way possible.)
 
  • #846
Maybe its time to close this thread with this final report.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081106.wpalin1106/BNStory/International/home
Knives come out for Sarah Palin
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LEE-ANNE GOODMAN
Canadian Press
November 6, 2008 at 9:08 AM EST
WASHINGTON — Sarah Palin wasn't aware that Africa was a continent and she and her brood behaved like a band of “Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast,” aides to Republican John McCain are telling prominent news organizations.
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  • #847
But wait. There's more:
NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.

A Palin aide said: "Governor Palin was not directing staffers to put anything on their personal credit cards, and anything that staffers put on their credit cards has been reimbursed, like an expense. Nasty and false accusations following a defeat say more about the person who made them than they do about Governor Palin."

McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581
 
  • #848
McCain Palin sure ran a disciplined campaign. I'm wondering if this wasn't Palin going rogue. What a disaster she turned out to be.
Palin launched her attack on Obama's association with William Ayers, the former Weather Underground bomber, before the campaign had finalized a plan to raise the issue. McCain's advisers were working on a strategy that they hoped to unveil the following week, but McCain had not signed off on it, and top adviser Mark Salter was resisting.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581/page/2

The disappointing thing to me was that McCain went on to back up the questions raised about Ayers by playing into the response he was getting apparently from the base.
 
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  • #849
I feel the news casts devoted to trashing sarah palin are petty and inappropriate.

i am not a fan, but the voters have already dismissed her, it is cheap shots to pile on now.
 
  • #850
mathwonk said:
I feel the news casts devoted to trashing sarah palin are petty and inappropriate.

i am not a fan, but the voters have already dismissed her, it is cheap shots to pile on now.

They aren't really piling on. Newsweek agreed not to publish any of it until after the election was closed. The time value of news being what it is they published their stories as soon as they could. Most of the talk today is feeding off these accounts and of course also Carl Crawford (from Fox) channeling the McCain staffers that wanted to unload after the campaign was over. It's the nature of news cycles, and of course that Newsweek is on the stands and they are happy to boost sales.

Personally I think its their responsibility if they know this stuff to unload it. There is no public service to be gained by their sitting on it even though it may not seem to be fair play. Keep in mind that a number of these revelations fly in the face of Palin's statements that she is no diva and that she shops thrift shops.
 

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