News Palin pick an insult to our intelligence

[Evo]

Are conservative Democrats DINOs?

 

[turbo]

Are conservative Democrats DINOs?

They were all wiped out by an asteroid.

 

[SpecificHeat]

You think BobG is a democrat. That's hysterical.

My bad. It walked like a Democrat, and it talked like a Democrat and it quacked like a Democrat and it dropped Democrat droppings like a Democrat but it isn't a Democrat.
Sorry. But at least you found my post amusing, which is much more than I can say for most anything posted by Democrats, or their lookalikes.

Gokul is correct, please read the guidelines. Any time you make a statement as fact you need to provide the link to the source, and it must be a mainstream source. Just FYI.

Just FYI, I read a comment by another Bush-hater that made reference to "Tax cuts for the rich" as if it were a statement of fact. Why is it that nobody here challenges presumptions of fact when they attack Bush, or America, or the "free-market economics" for their "failure"?

Why is that? Obviously the "guidelines" are selectively applied.

 

[BobG]

Maine's senators are both called RINOs by the far-right, but they have routinely voted to let Bush have everything he has asked for. One of them is up for re-election this year - Susan Collins. She always wears bright red dresses or dress suits, but during this election cycle she appears in blue in all her TV ads. She also does not mention her political affiliation in the ads - does she think we'll mistake her for a Democrat? Not only that, she stayed away from the GOP convention. People are sick of the Republican policies (tax cuts for the rich, never-ending wars, etc) and she is running scared. She talks down to voters with her ridiculous "Edith-Ann" voice, so it's hard to listen to her ads. I use the mute button a lot. If you click the link, please accept my sincere apologies for inflicting her on you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5CfJrcVK_c&feature=user

Gordon Smith of Oregon never mentions what party he belongs to. It's becoming a trend.

In any event, Democrat bloggers really missed the mark in their attacks on Palin - so much so it was counter productive.

Fortunately for Democrats, she's managed to inflict more wounds on herself than Democratic bloggers.

She's a good governor for Alaska. When it comes to anything bigger than Alaska - yikes!

 

[BobG]

Are conservative Democrats DINOs?

They were all wiped out by an asteroid.

Ben Nelson of Nebraska would easily qualify. He's more conservative than the Republican Senator Chuck Hagel (who definitely isn't liberal in spite of being against the Iraq war).

Democrats just don't make as big a deal of it since they need some of those Western states. We'll see what happens if you get a Democratic President and two Democratic houses in Congress. Generally, as soon as one of the parties start to feel comfortable, they start trying to kick out all the moderates.

I think that was a provision in the Constitution (written in invisible ink) to ensure the country never devolved into a one-party tyranny.

 

[LowlyPion]

Gordon Smith of Oregon never mentions what party he belongs to. It's becoming a trend.

In any event, Democrat bloggers really missed the mark in their attacks on Palin - so much so it was counter productive.

Fortunately for Democrats, she's managed to inflict more wounds on herself than Democratic bloggers.

She's a good governor for Alaska. When it comes to anything bigger than Alaska - yikes!

I understand that several Congresspeople, Washington State I think, are trying to run on the ballot in their elections as "The GOP Party" candidate because they didn't want Republican under their party affiliation.

 

[LowlyPion]

Here is a link to a FoxNews article on these people in Washington running as GOP Party and not Republican on the ballot.

Republican is a dirty word this year.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Sep24/0,4670,WashingtonGovernor,00.html

I think a judge has subsequently ruled that they can list themselves as GOP and not Republican.

 

[BobG]

Here is a link to a FoxNews article on these people in Washington running as GOP Party and not Republican on the ballot.

Republican is a dirty word this year.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Sep24/0,4670,WashingtonGovernor,00.html

I think a judge has subsequently ruled that they can list themselves as GOP and not Republican.

We'd be a lot better off if candidates weren't allowed to list their party affiliation on the ballot. Voters ought to at least know something about their candidate before they enter the voting booth. The votes of voters that don't even know the candidates' names would be scattered randomly so they wouldn't affect the outcome.

 

[turbo]

Despite having known Palin only about a month, McCain claims to have turned to her for advice "many times."

Senator, as you know, the vice presidential debate comes on Thursday — your running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, against Joe Biden. Gov. Palin has been asked about her foreign policy qualifications and cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as one reason she's qualified. I'd like to ask you, senator, what specifically do you believe that Alaska's proximity to Russia adds to Palin's foreign policy qualifications?

Well, I think the fact that they have had certain relationships,[/color] but that's not the major she has stated, and you know that. The major reason she has stated is because she has the knowledge and background on a broad variety of issues, including probably the major challenge of America, and that's energy independence. And she has been responsible, taken on the oil companies, and we now are going to have a $40 billion natural gas pipeline. She has oversighted the natural gas and oil and natural resources of the state of Alaska and, by the way, quit when she saw corruption there. She has the world view that I have. She is very highly qualified and very knowledgeable.

Given what you've said, senator, is there an occasion where you could imagine turning to Gov. Palin for advice in a foreign policy crisis?

I've turned to her advice many times in the past.[/color] I can't imagine turning to Sen. Obama or Sen. Biden, because they've been wrong. They were wrong about Iraq, they were wrong about Russia. Sen. Biden wanted to divide Iraq into three different countries. He voted against the first Gulf War. Sen. Obama has no experience whatsoever and has been wrong in the issues that he's been involved in.

But would you turn to Gov. Palin?

I certainly wouldn't turn to them, and I already have turned to Gov. Palin, particularly on energy issues, and I've appreciated her background and knowledge on that and many other issues.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95240063

Notice that McCain alludes to "certain relationships" between Alaska and Russia. The problem is that there are no "relations" or trade missions, as Palin has claimed. A former governor of AK made a trip to a remote oil-rich Russian island in 1997. Nothing before or since, and certainly nothing during Palin's brief tenure as governor, yet the press let's her and McCain make the clam as if it were true.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/09/26/trade_missions/index.html

 

[fourier jr]

I think some people here know who Bill Blum is. He described Sarah Palin in his latest website update:

Palintology
What's the proper term to use to categorize a person who is ... blindly patriotic, jingoist, an evangelical Christian creationist, gun and hunting enthusiast, National Rifle Association supporter; denies the science behind global warming, with a philosophy of "dig, dig, dig", and in foreign policy: "bomb", "bomb", "bomb"; untraveled, uneducated, ignorant, a devoted book-banner, racist, opposed to equal rights for gays, fanatically anti-abortion, anti-feminist, and has a 17-year-old daughter pregnant and unmarried?

The proper American term is "white trash". Or, as the honorable governor of Alaska apparently prefers, "redneck" -- "Rouge cou" is what she called a business she registered.

And what do you call the person if on top of all that she declares in the year 2008 that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9-11 and that "a surge in Afghanistan also will lead us to victory there as it has proven to have done in Iraq"? The proper term is "scary", or perhaps "scary moron".

And what do you think of this person when you learn that she believes that the war in Iraq is a "task that is from God"? I think this is actually a form of insanity. There are people in institutions all over the world charged with killing others, who insist that they were acting under God's command.

And if the above is not enough to make you fall in love with the woman, consider that she believes that humans coexisted with dinosaurs 6,000 years ago; and have a look at a video of the vice-president/president-to-be undergoing an exorcism performed by a minister to free her body from "witches". When we consider the flak that Barack Obama received because his minister is not in love with US foreign policy, imagine what Palin will get for having a minister who performs witch exorcism. Nothing.

So, have we forgotten anything about her charming belief system? Santa Claus? The Easter Bunny? Oh, she must have been kidnapped by a space alien. I hope some day to meet her and have her read my palms, my tea leaves, my aura, my horoscope, and my tarot.

http://members.aol.com/bblum6/aer62.htm

So she's not quite the ordinary hockey mom she says she is.

Here's a YouTube clip of Palin getting that exorcism (@ ~1:30):


(ps - how do I put a youtube clip directly into a post?)

 

[LowlyPion]

So she's not quite the ordinary hockey mom she says she is.

Here's a YouTube clip of Palin getting that exorcism (@ ~1:30):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNvemHKXZFs
(ps - how do I put a youtube clip directly into a post?)

Like this.

 

[fourier jr]

What do I type though? I saw the YouTube button & hit it but I only got a blank white square instead of the actual video. What goes between the YouTube tags?

 

[Evo]

What do I type though? I saw the YouTube button & hit it but I only got a blank white square instead of the actual video. What goes between the YouTube tags?

From your link you would copy and paste this part - pNvemHKXZFs into the youtube tags.

 

[LowlyPion]

What do I type though? I saw the YouTube button & hit it but I only got a blank white square instead of the actual video. What goes between the YouTube tags?

Hit the quote button on my post and look at the code.

 

[Gokul43201]

Palin can not name a single Supreme Court case besides Roe v. Wade (at least, not one that she or any other segment of the population might disagree with).

Link to video --> http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4493093n
(same questions posed to Palin and Biden, feel free to compare)

Link to transcript --> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/01/eveningnews/main4493062.shtml

Excerpt:

Couric: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

Palin: Well, let's see. There's, of course in the great history of America there have been rulings, that's never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but …

Couric: Can you think of any?

Palin: Well, I could think of … any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But, you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a vice president, if I'm so privileged to serve, wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.

Youtube clip:

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[Evo]

Palin can not name a single Supreme Court case besides Roe v. Wade (at least, not one that she or any other segment of the population might disagree with).

Link to video --> http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4493093n
(same questions posed to Palin and Biden, feel free to compare)

Link to transcript --> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/01/eveningnews/main4493062.shtml

Excerpt:

 

[LowlyPion]

Palin can not name a single Supreme Court case besides Roe v. Wade (at least, not one that she or any other segment of the population might disagree with).

I'm, in that sense, a federalist, where I believe that states should have more say in the laws of their lands and individual areas.

Sad that she doesn't know what a Federalist would be. I'd have to wonder what she actually thinks Federalism is.
I think her view is really more that of a confederationist not federalist.

Sadly I can't remember having seen any of her answers on any topic that wouldn't have been more suitable for anything other than the Q&A of a beauty contest.

 

[Ben Niehoff]

A few weeks ago I had to grade assignments for Physics 100, a class about basic physics for non-physics majors (apparently this year, most of them are business majors). Occasionally one of them would clearly not know the answer to a question, and yet try to "fill it in" in the same way Palin is doing, e.g.:

Q. What is Newton's 3rd law?

A. Newton's 3rd law is one of the laws written by Newton when he was writing laws about physics. It is the third one he wrote, coming right after the 2nd law.

 

[Evo]

A few weeks ago I had to grade assignments for Physics 100, a class about basic physics for non-physics majors (apparently this year, most of them are business majors). Occasionally one of them would clearly not know the answer to a question, and yet try to "fill it in" in the same way Palin is doing, e.g.:

Q. What is Newton's 3rd law?

A. Newton's 3rd law is one of the laws written by Newton when he was writing laws about physics. It is the third one he wrote, coming right after the 2nd law.

Give them a beehive hairdo and a "deer in the headlights" blank stare, oh, and they have to repeat the name of whoever asked the question so that there is no doubt they at least remember who they are talking to.

Does that repeating the interviewer's name thing she does irk anyone else? The way she does it is so unnatural, she comes off as a used car salesman.

 

[fourier jr]

Here's Palin's Greatest Hits from Keith Olberman:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/26982680#26982680
I haven't laughed so hard at a politician in a long time. She'd fill Bush's shoes very nicely!
(O'Reilly makes another Hitler comparison is also awesome, but has nothing to do with Palin)

 

[BobG]

I hate to jump on the bash Palin bandwagon, but this is pretty funny to anybody that's had to struggle through diagramming sentences in English class: Diagramming Palin

Actually, diagramming the sentences of any candidate in interviews would give you a decent clue about their poise under stress. It's not that easy.

 

[Evo]

I hate to jump on the bash Palin bandwagon, but this is pretty funny to anybody that's had to struggle through diagramming sentences in English class: Diagramming Palin

Actually, diagramming the sentences of any candidate in interviews would give you a decent clue about their poise under stress. It's not that easy.

That was great!

You have to wonder if a tv interview is so stressful that her brain ceases to function, what would she do if she were presented with an actual crisis? I would expect anyone running for Vice-President of the United States to be capable of handling an interview.

I don't know how tonight's debate will be formatted, but I'd like to see the questions phrased in a way that she will need to activate a few brain cells in order to pluck out the canned answers.

And, please, do not diagram my sentences.

 

[Amp1]

BobG, that is fascinating! It seems Palin was 'miss' remembering snippets and (I got to give her handlers credit for trying) slogans - talking points - in the wrong order or permutating them in her head into what she thought was something with meaning/sense (but only to her.)

 

[LowlyPion]

Hefner makes Palin a Centerfold offer.

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=73737

 

[BobG]

That was great!

You have to wonder if a tv interview is so stressful that her brain ceases to function, what would she do if she were presented with an actual crisis? I would expect anyone running for Vice-President of the United States to be capable of handling an interview.

I don't know how tonight's debate will be formatted, but I'd like to see the questions phrased in a way that she will need to activate a few brain cells in order to pluck out the canned answers.

And, please, do not diagram my sentences.

I thought about trying to diagram one of Joe Biden's sentences, but I'm stumped. Is "yes" a noun or a verb?

Brian Williams: Senator Biden, words have, in the past, gotten you in trouble, words that were borrowed and words that some found hateful.

An editorial in the Los Angeles Times said, "In addition to his uncontrolled verbosity, Biden is a gaff machine."

Can you reassure voters in this country that you would have the discipline you would need on the world stage, Senator?

Biden: Yes.

Actually, Biden's pretty good at speaking in coherent sentences. He may not know when to quit speaking, but his sentences are usually short and well constructed.

Chuck, stand up! Let 'em see ya!

 

[LowlyPion]

I don't know how tonight's debate will be formatted, but I'd like to see the questions phrased in a way that she will need to activate a few brain cells in order to pluck out the canned answers.

Article on the debates:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21debate.html?ref=politics&pagewanted=all

McCain Campaign sought to limit the debate to short questions and answers with little opportunity to interchange between the candidates. They would prefer to focus on McCain's positions they say.

 

[Evo]

Article on the debates:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21debate.html?ref=politics&pagewanted=all

McCain Campaign sought to limit the debate to short questions and answers with little opportunity to interchange between the candidates. They would prefer to focus on McCain's positions they say.

That is preposterous. Basically the McCain camp is saying "Since we have chosen someone completely unqualified for VP, we need to limit the questions to something she can have a chance of understanding." Oh my god! Can anything be more embarrasing for McCain?

At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.

Perhaps the correct thing to have done would have been to pick someone qualified?

 

[turbo]

I want Ifill to ask Palin how giving hundreds of billions of dollars to Wall Street will translate in "job creation" as she claimed in the Couric interview.

 

[turbo]

That is preposterous. Basically the McCain camp is saying "Since we have chosen someone completely unqualified for VP, we need to limit the questions to something she can have a chance of understanding." Oh my god! Can anything be more embarrasing for McCain?



Perhaps the correct thing to have done would have been to pick someone qualified?

The sad part is that we only know what has been agreed to. These guys are primarily lawyers, and you know they went to the debate committee looking for a lot more than they got. They probably wanted Ifill to ask leading questions that would require answers not much more complicated than "yes" or "no". Limiting exchanges between the candidates is actually good for Biden, lest he come off as patronizing in the eyes of Palin supporters. If they were to have some sort of back-and-forth, the comparison would not have been favorable to Palin, and McCain camp would be hollering about sexism and favoritism.

 

[Amp1]

I want Ifill to ask her. Who is the President of Spain; and what we can do to bring about rebuilding a coalition of nations to address the Taliban and Al-Quaida?