Parametrization of a circle on a sphere

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The problem involves parametrizing a circle of radius r on a sphere of radius R, specifically by arclength. The context is within the realm of geometry and trigonometry, focusing on spherical coordinates and circular motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the parametrization of the circle, with one suggesting a formula involving arc length. Others explore the relationship between the circle's radius and the sphere's radius, questioning the correct use of angles and trigonometric functions in the parametrization.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations of the parametrization being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between the variables involved, while others are clarifying the correct form of the equations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive dialogue is ongoing.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to parametrize by arclength and the relationship between the radii of the circle and the sphere. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the use of angles in the parametrization.

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Homework Statement


Parametrize a circle of radius r on a sphere of radius R>r by arclength.



Homework Equations


Circle Equation: (cos [theta], sin[theta], 0)


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know if the professor is tricking us, but isn't the parametrization just

Circle: (r*sin[theta]/s, r*cos[theta]/s, s), where s is the arc length?
 
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The circumference of a circle is 2\pi, so when you find the length of your circle, you should obtain length=1.

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You can always set up your coordinate system so that the circle is at a fixed z.

In spherical coordinates we have x= Rcos(\theta)sin(\phi), y= R sin(\theta)sin(\phi) and z= R cos(\phi). At fixed z, \phi= cos^{-1}(z/R) and it is easy to show that
sin(cos^{-1}(z/R))= \frac{\sqrt{R^2- z^2}}{R^}

It is also true that with radius r, we have r^2+ z^2= R^2 so that R^2- z^2= r^2 and so
sin(\phi)= sin(cos^{-1}(z/R))= \frac{r}{R}

That is, x= r cos(\theta), y= r sin(\theta), and z= \sqrt{R^2- r^2}, a constant.

But, since \theta is in radians, the arclength of a segment over angle \theta is s= r\theta so that
\theta= \frac{s}{r}
 
Oh, there should not be a [theta] in the trigonometric functions, but rather the value (s/r).

Hence, the parametrization of a circle would be:

(r*cos(s/r), r*sin(s/r), sqrt[R^2 - r^2])

Thanks for all the help!
 

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