Parametrize a surface and calculating a surface integral

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The problem involves calculating a surface integral of the function f(x,y,z) = √(1/2 + y²) over a specified surface defined by the equation x² + 2y² = 1, with constraints on z. The context is within the subject area of multivariable calculus, specifically focusing on surface integrals and parametrization of surfaces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to parametrize the surface of the elliptic cylinder and questions the meaning of the hint regarding parametrization. Some participants suggest using cylindrical-like coordinates and provide a potential parametrization involving trigonometric functions. Others clarify that the suggested parametrization only represents the intersection of the cylinder with a plane of constant z and emphasize the need to include z in the surface parameterization.

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The discussion is active with participants exploring different parametrization strategies. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the correct approach to represent the surface, and some guidance has been offered on how to construct the parameterization. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final method to be used.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of parametrizing a surface in three dimensions, and there are indications of confusion regarding the implications of the problem's setup and the role of z in the parametrization.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the surface integral I = \int\int f dS of the function f(x,y,z) = \sqrt{1/2 + y^{2}} over the surface S given by x^{2} + 2*y^{2} = 1, 0 \leq z \leq x^{2} + y^{2}. (Clue: parametrize the surface.)

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The surface is, as far as I can tell, the elliptic cylinder x^{2} + 2*y^{2} = 1, from z = 0 to z = 1.
Now, I have trouble parametrizing the surface. Can I just parametrize it as an ellips in R^{2}? The equation of that ellips would be x = \sqrt{1 - 2*y^{2}}. Then, how do I parametrize the ellips given the equation? And also, why is 'parametrizing the surface' a clue? I really don't get it...
Sorry for clumsy use of LaTeX, I'm not very familiar with it.

Thank you very much!
 
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You try to parameterize a surface in a way to express it in a nice form that hopefully makes the integral easy. This problem suggests cylindrical-like coordinates. Here's what I would try. Write your cylinder like this:

x^2 + \frac{y^2}{\left(\frac 1 {\sqrt{2}}\right)^2} = 1

This suggests

x = \cos(\theta),\ y = \frac 1{\sqrt{2}}\sin(\theta)

for the ellipse so you could try this parameterization for your surface:

\vec R(\theta,z) =\langle \cos(\theta),\frac 1{\sqrt{2}}\sin(\theta),z\rangle

Try that. It might get a little messy but I think you will find it works. Be brave.:smile:
 
Strictly speaking, what LKurtz gives is the parametrization of the intersection of that cylinder with a plane of constant z. For the surface itself you will need to add z= z.

You then have the surface parameterized by x= cos(\theta), y= (1/\sqrt{2})sin(\theta), z= z so the two-dimensional surface is in terms of the two parameters \theta and z.

We can then write
\vec{R}(\theta, z)= \langle cos(\theta), (1/sqrt{2})sin(\theta), z\rangle

The derivatives with respect to the two parameters,
\vec{R}(\theta, z)_\theta= \langle -sin(\theta), (1/\sqrt{2})cos(\theta), 0\rangle
\vec{R}(\theta, z)_z= \langle 0, 0 , 1 \rangle
are vectors in the tangent plane at each point and their cross product (the "fundamental vector product" the surface), a vector perpendicular to the tangent plane at each point, with "d\theta dz" is the vector differential of surface area and its magnitude is the differential of surface area.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Strictly speaking, what LKurtz gives is the parametrization of the intersection of that cylinder with a plane of constant z.

Huh? Maybe your scroll-down bar isn't working??
 

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