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The discussion revolves around solving a partial differential equation of the form ##au_{x} + bu_{y} = f(x,y)##, where ##f(x,y)## is a specified function. The original poster attempts to utilize a change of variables to reduce the PDE to an ordinary differential equation, expressing concerns about the transition back to the original coordinates and the implications for the differential elements involved.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for solving the PDE, including the original poster's approach using a change of variables and the method of characteristics. Questions arise regarding the application of these methods, particularly in relation to the inhomogeneous nature of the equation and the handling of differential elements during the transformation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and expressing uncertainties about their applicability. Some guidance has been offered regarding the method of characteristics, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take. The original poster remains focused on their coordinate method while acknowledging the potential effectiveness of the method of characteristics.

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There is a noted difficulty in transitioning between coordinate systems and expressing differential elements appropriately, which may impact the ability to derive the final solution. The original poster also expresses a desire to understand how to reconcile their approach with the results obtained through the method of characteristics.

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Solve ##au_{x} + bu_{y} = f(x,y)##, where ##f(x,y)## is a given function. If ##a \neq 0##, write the solution in the form

$$u(x,y) = (a^{2} + b^{2})^{\frac{-1}{2}} \int_{L} f ds + g(bx - ay)$$

(from Partial Differential Equations An Introduction, 2nd edition by Walter A. Strauss; pg. 10)
I began by using the change of variables ##x' = ax + by## and ##y' = bx - ay## to reduce the PDE to the following ODE:

$$(a^{2} + b^{2}) u_{x'} = f( \frac{ax' + by'}{a^{2} + b^{2}}, \frac{bx' - ay'}{a^{2} + b^{2}})$$

$$u_{x'} = \frac{f( \frac{ax' + by'}{a^{2} + b^{2}}, \frac{bx' - ay'}{a^{2} + b^{2}})}{a^{2} + b^{2}}$$

This is easily solvable:

$$u(x', y') = \int \frac{f( \frac{ax' + by'}{a^{2} + b^{2}}, \frac{bx' - ay'}{a^{2} + b^{2}})}{a^{2} + b^{2}} dx' + g(y')$$My difficulty lies in the next step. In using the change of coordinates to return to the unprimed coordinates I'm not precisely sure how ##dx'## is affected. Because ##x'## depends on a, b, x and y I expect it to decompose into some combination of dx and dy which can then be written as a line integral but I'm still not entirely sure how the a and b are encapsulated...

I'm stuck with something like this because I don't understand how to get the a and b terms to come out to give me ##(a^{2} + b^{2})^{\frac{1}{2}}## in the numerator.

Any guidance or explanation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

$$u(x,y) = (a^{2} + b^{2}) \int_{L} f ds + g(bx - ay)$$
 
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Have you tried doing this using the method of characteristics?
 
I haven't tried this particular problem using the method of characteristics. However, I have tried solving several "simpler" (ie. less general) problems using the method of characteristics but personally find the method of characteristics difficult to apply to an inhomogeneous PDE so please bear with me if what follows is utter nonsense.Beginning with the PDE we wish to solve: ##au_{x} + bu_{y} = f(x, y)##

The method of characteristics tells us that the directional derivative of ##u## in the direction of ##(a,b)## is given by ##f(x,y)##. I'm really not sure where to go from this...everything I can think of saying follows from the single example my text provides in the case of f(x,y) = 0; that is, I would look at lines perpendicular to ##(a,b)## and argue that ##bx - ay = constant## - but I'm unsure whether or not that should be true in this case (and it seems to me like it shouldn't be true).
 
In applying the method of characteristics, I usually think of a and b as the components of velocity in the x and y directions:
[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}=a[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=b[/tex]
[tex]ds=\sqrt{(dx)^2+(dy)^2}=\sqrt{(a)^2+(b)^2}dt[/tex]
So,
[tex]\frac{dx}{ds}=\frac{a}{\sqrt{(a)^2+(b)^2}}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{ds}=\frac{b}{\sqrt{(a)^2+(b)^2}}[/tex]

[tex]{\sqrt{(a)^2+(b)^2}}\frac{du}{ds}=f\left(x_0+\frac{as}{\sqrt{(a)^2+(b)^2}},y_0+<br /> \frac{bs}{\sqrt{(a)^2+(b)^2}}\right)[/tex]

The g function is related to the initial condition, which lies on a line perpendicular to the streamlines.

Chet
 
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Ahh, that method seems a lot cleaner and nicer than what I was going for...

I'm sure it's possible for me to get the same result by using the method I began to employ in my initial post if I were able to express ##dx'## in terms or some combination of ##dx## and ##dy##. I doubt it's as simple as just ##dx' = a dx + b dy## (because I still wouldn't be able to work my way from there to the final result).

I'm just curious to see how I could plow forward with the coordinate method because I expect its possible as the two methods should be equivalent.
 

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