Particle energy through magnetic and electric field

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of a charged particle moving through electric and magnetic fields, specifically addressing why the magnetic field cannot increase the energy of the particle. The context involves concepts from electromagnetism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between force, energy, and motion in electric and magnetic fields. Questions arise regarding the conditions under which kinetic energy can increase and the role of work in energy transformations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and prompting each other to think critically about the concepts involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between work done and energy changes, leading to further exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication that assumptions about the nature of the fields and their effects on energy are being questioned. The discussion also hints at a non-relativistic framework for analyzing the problem.

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Homework Statement



Given the formula for the force on a charge in an electric and magnetic field is F = eE + ev X B
why can the magnetic fi eld never increase the energy of a particle that travels through
it

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The Attempt at a Solution



I really am not sure! I look at this and i know that the reason must be obvious and I'll kick myself for not getting it but I'm simply at a loss! The only thing i can think of right now is that the fields are perpendicular to the motion and will cancel out however this just doesn't make sense!
Any help would be appreciated in not just helping me find the answer but for helping me rid myself of the stupidity I'm feeling! Thanks
 
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When does the kinetic energy of particle increase? In other words, how does energy get pumped into the particle?
 
umm I'm not completely sure what you mean? do you mean to use E^2 = p^2 + m^2 and show there is no overall change in momentum?
 
This is not necessarily a relativistic situation. If the kinetic energy of a particle increases, this means that there has been an energy transformation. What must be done on the particle to achieve this energy transformation? Hint: It starts with "W".
 
i woke this morning and came to my sense using your first clue! showing that Work done (and so the change in energy) was not increased.

thanks for the help on the subject!
 

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