Particle sliding down a sphere - When does it leave the sphere?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle sliding down a smooth, frictionless sphere of radius R, with the goal of determining the point at which the particle leaves the surface of the sphere after being slightly disturbed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on the particle, particularly focusing on the normal force and its relation to centripetal force. There are questions about the correctness of the derived equations and the implications of the particle's motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the original poster's calculations, while others have pointed out a discrepancy in the thread title regarding the type of object involved. The discussion appears to be productive, with clarifications being made about the terminology used.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted issue with the thread title, which originally referred to a "ball" instead of a "particle," leading to some confusion. The original poster expresses a desire to correct this but is limited by account permissions.

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Homework Statement


A particle is placed on top of a smooth (frictionless) sphere of radius R. If the particle is slightly
disturbed, at what point will it leave the sphere?

Homework Equations


Same as first question, just
F = ma = ΣF_i

The Attempt at a Solution


Similarly, we want to know when the normal force of the sphere on the particle is overcome:
F_norm = F_cent
mg CosΘ = (mv2/r)
CosΘ = y/R (where y is the height above the center of the sphere)

So:
y = v2/g

Finding v2:
Using conservation of energy, PE_initial = PE_final + KE_final
mgR = mgy + mv2/2

Solving for v2
v2 = 2g(R-y)

Placing into equation for y:
y = 2g(R-y)/g = 2(R-y)

Solving for y:
y = (2/3) R

Correct? Or am I making a horrible mistake?
 
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This is correct.
 
The title of the thread is "Ball rolling down a sphere". You solved the problem of a particle sliding down a sphere instead of a ball rolling down.
 
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You're right, if I could change the original post, I would, but there's no "Edit" button. Could be an account permissions issue...
 
I can fix it. So the title should read "particle" instead of "ball"?
 
Yes, thank you, and an even better description would be "Particle sliding down a sphere" (instead of rolling)
 
Done! And thank you to @ehild -- I had the same question when I saw the thread and posted answer. :smile:
 

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