Particles travelling faster than the speed of light?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the possibility of particles traveling faster than the speed of light, particularly in relation to concepts like Cerenkov radiation and tachyons. It explores theoretical implications, potential contradictions with Einstein's relativity, and the nature of such particles in different media versus vacuum.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the possibility of particles traveling faster than light and its implications for Einstein's relativity.
  • One participant asserts that particles cannot exceed the speed of light in a vacuum, citing violations of causality and the theoretical nature of tachyons, which are not observed in nature.
  • Cerenkov radiation is discussed as a phenomenon that occurs when a particle exceeds the speed of light in a medium, not in a vacuum, with an analogy to a sonic boom.
  • A question is raised about the existence of tachyons, leading to a response that suggests they are only theoretical constructs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that particles cannot travel faster than light in a vacuum and that Cerenkov radiation is a distinct phenomenon occurring in media. However, there is disagreement regarding the existence and implications of tachyons, with some viewing them as purely theoretical.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of light speed in different contexts and the implications of faster-than-light travel on causality, which remain unresolved.

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hi, I just heard about particles traveling faster than speed of light and somthing about cerenkov radiation. Is it possible for some subatomical particles to overcome speed of light? if yes, doesn't it contradicts einsteins relativity? I'm pretty confused please help.
 
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Particles going faster than light in vacuum do not exist. Overcoming speed of light means a violation of causality (even if possible formulations of relativity in this case exist and the corresponding field theories describe the so called tachyonic excitations, but these imply a vacuum instability and then they are never observed in nature).

Cerenkov radiation appears when a particle moves faster than the speed of light in the given medium (not vacuum). In a medium the speed of light is given by v=c/n being n the refraction index of the medium itself and so v is smaller than c. A particle can travel faster than v in the medium producing electromagnetic radiation much in the same way of the sonic bang of an aircraft moving faster than the sound speed in air.

Jon
 
Lester said:
Particles going faster than light in vacuum do not exist. Overcoming speed of light means a violation of causality (even if possible formulations of relativity in this case exist and the corresponding field theories describe the so called tachyonic excitations, but these imply a vacuum instability and then they are never observed in nature).

Cerenkov radiation appears when a particle moves faster than the speed of light in the given medium (not vacuum). In a medium the speed of light is given by v=c/n being n the refraction index of the medium itself and so v is smaller than c. A particle can travel faster than v in the medium producing electromagnetic radiation much in the same way of the sonic bang of an aircraft moving faster than the sound speed in air.

Jon

Thanks a lot! Now I am happy again!
 
And what about tachyons? Do they "exist"?
 
Only in the minds of some theorists.
 

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