Path orientation for calculating electric potential

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The discussion focuses on the orientation of the differential line element, dl, in line integrals for calculating electric potential in vector calculus. The integral is typically oriented from point O to point r, but the textbook suggests an outward orientation from r to O, leading to confusion. It is established that the direction of dl does not affect the potential's value, as changing the path merely adds a constant to the potential. The standard approach is to start the path from infinity to ensure a potential of zero at that point.

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For line integrals in vector calculus,

\int^a_b F \cdot dl

I almost always see the path oriented from a to b.

But my textbook has the following (look at the first equation for V(r):

lapJZ5b.jpg


Since the integral's limits are from O to r, I would have expected dl to also be pointing in the direction from O to r (i.e. pointing in the radially inward (minus r hat) direction), but the math in the textbook seems to imply that dl points radially outward (positive r hat direction, from r to O). I say this because the result of E dot dl has no minus sign in front of it.

How do you know which direction to orient dl?
 
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It doesn't matter at which point you start your integration path as long as it is not at the singularity at ##\vec{r}=0## of the Coulomb potential (I don't know what's discussed in your book, because you didn't tell us; maybe it's a spherical surface carrying some charge?). Changing the starting point of your path just adds a constant to the potential, but the only thing interesting is the field ##\vec{E}=-\vec{\nabla} V##.

Here they used a path starting from ##r=|\vec{r}| \rightarrow \infty##, making the potential ##0## at infinity, which is a convenient standard choice. Since the field is radial always, the only contribution is from the part going from infinity radially in, and you get the integral solved in your book.
 
OmegaKV said:
For line integrals in vector calculus,

\int^a_b F \cdot dl

I almost always see the path oriented from a to b.

But my textbook has the following (look at the first equation for V(r):

lapJZ5b.jpg


Since the integral's limits are from O to r, I would have expected dl to also be pointing in the direction from O to r (i.e. pointing in the radially inward (minus r hat) direction), but the math in the textbook seems to imply that dl points radially outward (positive r hat direction, from r to O). I say this because the result of E dot dl has no minus sign in front of it.

How do you know which direction to orient dl?

The path goes from b to a. If you reverse the order the modulus stay the same but the sign changes.
 
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