PDE with constant coefficient using orthogonal transformation

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The discussion revolves around solving a first-order partial differential equation (PDE) with constant coefficients using orthogonal transformations. The original poster presents a specific example of the PDE: 2Ux + 2Uy + Uz = 0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore geometric interpretations of the PDE, particularly through directional derivatives. Questions are raised about identifying the vector \(\vec{v}\) and determining the lines along which the solution \(u\) remains constant. There is also a discussion about the method used by the original poster's instructor, which involves transforming coordinates and finding relationships between variables.

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Participants are sharing different approaches to the problem, with some suggesting geometric interpretations and transformations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply these transformations to a more general form of the PDE. No explicit consensus has been reached, but guidance on the transformation process has been provided.

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Participants note variations in teaching methods and approaches to solving PDEs, highlighting differences in understanding and application of orthogonal transformations. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity regarding the assumptions and definitions used in the problem setup.

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Plz Help :(

Hi

I want 2 know how 2 solve 1st order partial differintial equation (PDE) with constant coefficient using orthogonal transformation

example :
solve: 2Ux + 2Uy + Uz = 0

THnx :blushing:
 
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I would tackle this one geometrcially. You can express the left side of your PDE in terms of a directional derivative, as follows:

D_{\vec{v}}u=0
\vec{v}\cdot\vec{\nabla}u=0

Now let me ask you something:

Can you identify \vec{v}? Can you figure out the lines along which u is constant?
 
Thnx sir

but the dr. who teach me, didn't use this way with us

when we have aUx+bUy+cU=f , where a,b,c,f are constants
he take tan(r)=b/a
then he find r
after that take w=xcosr+ysinr , t=-xsinr+ycosr
then find Ux , Uy
that's it

so if i have aUx+bUy+cUz+dU=f
can i take same w, t and z=z ?
 
My approach is not much different from your professor's.

This equation:

aUx+bUy+cU=f , where a,b,c,f are constants

can be written in the following form.

D_{\vec{v}}u+cu=f

where \vec{v}=<a,b>.

he take tan(r)=b/a
then he find r
after that take w=xcosr+ysinr , t=-xsinr+ycosr
then find Ux , Uy

What your instructor did was rotate the x-axis so that it coincides with the vector \vec{v}. In that coordinate system there is only one independent variable, and so you effectively have an ODE. The rotation matrix that carries \{x,y\} into \{w,t\} is given by the following.

R_{z}(r) = \left[\begin{array}{cc} \cos(r) & \sin(r)\\ -\sin(r) & \cos(r) \end{array}\right]

that's it

No, that's not it. All that does is transform the equation. It still remains to solve it.

so if i have aUx+bUy+cUz+dU=f
can i take same w, t and z=z ?

You will want to do a rotation about some axis so that one coordinate axis is parallel to \vec{v}=<a,b,c>.
 
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