Perpendicular planes, solve for parameter a

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The problem involves determining the values of the parameter a for which two planes in R3 are perpendicular. The equations of the planes are given, and the relationship between their normal vectors is central to the discussion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concept of perpendicularity in R3, questioning how it relates to the dot product of normal vectors of the planes. There is an exploration of the definition of a vector perpendicular to a plane and how to find it.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the normals of the planes and their perpendicularity. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the concept of dot products in the context of R3. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with some participants suggesting that understanding the normals is key to proceeding.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding the transition from R2 to R3, particularly in how perpendicularity is defined in higher dimensions. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the definitions and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


Determine for what value/s of the parameter a the following planes in R3 are perpendicular:
ax + 0y - 5z = 3
ax + ay + 5z = -26
Write answer in form {a,b} or {a}



Homework Equations


I know that in R2 two vectors are perpendicular if
u*v = 0
What what do I use for R3 with planes?



The Attempt at a Solution


To solve this problem I need to know what it means for two planes to be perpendicular. I know in R2 that means there dot product is zero, what does that mean in R3? Also dot product?
 
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concon said:

Homework Statement


Determine for what value/s of the parameter a the following planes in R3 are perpendicular:
ax + 0y - 5z = 3
ax + ay + 5z = -26
Write answer in form {a,b} or {a}



Homework Equations


I know that in R2 two vectors are perpendicular if
u*v = 0
What what do I use for R3 with planes?



The Attempt at a Solution


To solve this problem I need to know what it means for two planes to be perpendicular. I know in R2 that means there dot product is zero, what does that mean in R3? Also dot product?
Two planes are perpendicular if their normals are perpendicular. That can be determined by getting the dot product of the two normals.
 
You need to know:

- what a vector perpendicular to a plane is,
- how to find a vector perpendicular to a plane (and why)
- that two planes are perpendicular when vectors perpendicular (normal) to them are perpendicular (and why)

then you can proceed easily (knowing what you do).

Try to think more precisely!
To solve this problem I need to know what it means for two planes to be perpendicular. I know in R2 that means there dot product is zero
In R2 there is no plane, there are lines.

Do you know how to check if two line in R2 are perpendicular?
For example: when are these lines perpendicular?

ax - 5 y= 1458966.1973
ax + 5 y= -125896.5586

what does that mean in R3? Also dot product?

dot product of what? That's the point!
 
maajdl said:
You need to know:

- what a vector perpendicular to a plane is,
- how to find a vector perpendicular to a plane (and why)
- that two planes are perpendicular when vectors perpendicular (normal) to them are perpendicular (and why)

then you can proceed easily (knowing what you do).

Try to think more precisely!

In R2 there is no plane, there are lines.

Do you know how to check if two line in R2 are perpendicular?
For example: when are these lines perpendicular?

ax - 5 y= 1458966.1973
ax + 5 y= -125896.5586



dot product of what? That's the point!

Okay I got the solution: {-5,5}

Normal of the first equation n = (a,0,-5)
Normal of the second equation m = (a,a,5)

thus n*m = a^2 -25 = 0
thus a = -5 or 5

Thanks to both of y'all for the replies. It helped a lot and I appreciate it!
 

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