Vector fields and line equations Problem

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The discussion revolves around vector fields and line equations, specifically focusing on finding a perpendicular line to two given lines and determining points of intersection with specified planes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculation of a cross product to find a perpendicular line and question the validity of their results. There are discussions about the interpretation of the xz-plane and the implications of the results obtained.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations and assumptions made, while others have raised questions about potential errors and the nature of the problem, suggesting it may be a trick question. The conversation reflects a mix of verification and exploration of concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There are indications of missing information in the parametrization of one of the lines, and participants are considering the implications of their findings in relation to the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement


We are giving to lines:
r1(t)=<1-t,4,5+2t>
r2(s)=<2,1+s,-s>

1. Find an equation perpendicular to the two lines and passing point P(1,1,1)
2. Find Coordinates of points of intersection of the line found in #1 with planes x=-1, xz-plane
3. Parametrize the line segment joining these two points.

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Okay, so #1 should be relatively easy. It's merely taking the cross product of the two lines in terms of their coefficients of the slope.
My cross product of this came out to be <-2,-1,-1> So the perpendicular line is r3(w)=<1-2w,1-w,1-w)

#2 is where things get weird.
So I set 1-2w=-1 to solve for the plane x=-1. This results in w=1 which makes r3(1)=(-1,0,0)

For the xz-plane I set y=0 so I set 1-w=0. This means that w=1 and I have the same result of (-1,0,0).

Proceeding to #3, I then get a weird result of <-1,0,0>

My question is: Where did I mess up? I assume I messed up because why would they ask a question that results in this manner. I have a feeling I messed up in part #2 where I said the xz-plane must mean y=0. What could I have done differently here?

Or is my cross product miscalculated ? (I think I've checked on it multiple times..)

Thanks for any help
 
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RJLiberator said:

Homework Statement


We are giving to lines:
r1(t)=<1-t,4,5+2t>
r2(s)=<2,1+2,-2>
Unfortunately, we cannot yet check your work, due to the missing variable of s in the parametrization of r2.
 
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Ah, I apologize. The last two 2's were supposed to be "s". I have now fixed it.

Thank you.
 
RJLiberator said:
Ah, I apologize. The last two 2's were supposed to be "s". I have now fixed it.

Thank you.
In that case, your work checks out fine. Perhaps the book has a typo, or it is a trick question where you really are supposed to "parametrize" the line between (-1, 0, 0) and itself with r(t) = (-1, 0, 0). :-)
 
Interesting.

So my understanding of the xz plane where y must be = 0 is correct in this case and they are equal to each other.

A trick question!
And therefore the parametrization is r(t)=<-1,0,0>
 
Since the parametrization is r(t)=<-1,0,0>
Does this line intersect the z-axis or x-axis? If so, can we find the point of intersection?

This is just a point that is on the x-axis at x=-1. Correct?
 
RJLiberator said:
Since the parametrization is r(t)=<-1,0,0>
Does this line intersect the z-axis or x-axis? If so, can we find the point of intersection?

This is just a point that is on the x-axis at x=-1. Correct?
Yes. It is a single point, and only "intersects" the x-axis. This isn't a remarkable feat particular to points; many lines in 3 dimensions don't intersect any axis.
 
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Excellent. Thank you kindly.
 

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