PF Slow: Find Solutions to Speed It Up

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Users are experiencing significant slowdowns on the Physics Forum (PF), with some attributing the issue to recent changes, including the addition of a gig of RAM and a new high-speed hard drive for the database. While some members report intermittent slowdowns, others have not noticed any issues, suggesting possible router maintenance or localized problems. There are concerns about the site's interaction with firewalls, particularly with crashes linked to Java scripts, which may be causing connection requests and port scans. Discussions also highlight the need for potential server upgrades due to ongoing performance issues. Overall, the community is seeking solutions to enhance PF's speed and reliability.
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PF is really slow.
 
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It's been horrible. I don't know what's wrong.
 
It was just a few minutes, wasn't it?
 
I've been experiencing periods of extreme slow downs for the past couple of days.
 
hmm we just added a gig of ram today, things should be faster
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
hmm we just added a gig of ram today, things should be faster

Yey, i will get you moving, watch out for the tups though.

Even now, now, very now
an old black ram is tupping your white ewe.
 
Probably not only PF. Sometimes it takes a lot of time here to find any url. But right now indeed PF seems faster.
 
It hasn't seemed slow to me at all. Maybe there's router maintenance being done somewhere.

- Warren
 
It's fine now.
 
  • #10
chroot said:
It hasn't seemed slow to me at all. Maybe there's router maintenance being done somewhere.

- Warren

No problems now, but hit some database errors and slowdowns last week. Greg knew about it at the time, and they seem to have been corrected.
 
  • #11
slow slow slow
 
  • #13
That post was 2:55 my time :frown:
 
  • #14
Cyrus said:
That post was 2:55 my time :frown:

Greg is an hour behind you. :wink:
 
  • #15
One thing that I have noticed for a while is that if I click on a thread title or the "New Posts" link quickly, the little "loading" icon in Firefox just sits and spins. If I hold the mouse button for 1/2 second or so, the update usually loads up quite promptly. I anybody else getting this, and is there a fix for it? Other web-sites don't give me this trouble, so it shouldn't be on my end...
 
  • #16
very very very very sloooooow. Perhaps because of the new SciAm access scripts.
 
  • #17
Several times yesterday, my connection timed out while loading pages on PF. No other sites were doing it to me, so it's not a problem on my end.
 
  • #18
Moonbear said:
Several times yesterday, my connection timed out while loading pages on PF. No other sites were doing it to me, so it's not a problem on my end.

That happened to me too, but it was only around about a 30 minute window for me. I can't remember the times though. :redface:
 
  • #19
Please, do implement a anti spider filter. I'm more than happy to fill in some additional hidden codes to get access to PF and have normal speed page loading time, but this is ridiculous. Everything loads quickly except PF which freezes up all the times.
 
  • #20
Actually, I think some of the issues were something Greg has been tinkering with behind the scenes.
 
  • #21
For about a month now, I've had troubles only on the PF. Being slow is part of it, but the main problem is that often when I'm on the PF, my firewall program (Outpost) will crash and then the system crashes---just in this last month.

I looked at the 'attacks' to my ports and they were coming from the Physics Forum. Why would the PF site be trying to access different ports on my system? tcp's 1488 and 1489
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
We may need a new server soon :(

Oh dear; that sounds pretty expensive :eek:
 
  • #24
Greg Bernhardt said:
We may need a new server soon :(
Noooooooo!
 
  • #25
Greg Bernhardt said:
We may need a new server soon :(

:cry: I hate server moves! No matter how carefully we pack up everything, the movers always break something or leave something behind at the old server. :cry:
 
  • #26
Were there any 'page properties' changes when PF partnered with SA?----that seems about the time when I started having problems with my firewall program crashing (and therefore the computer).
 
  • #27
rewebster, there was a javascript file added. Check your firewall logs and get back to me with what you find.

FYI, we will be adding a high speed hard drive to house the database tomorrow, this should speed things up a noticable amount.
 
  • #28
Greg Bernhardt said:
FYI, we will be adding a high speed hard drive to house the database tomorrow, this should speed things up a noticable amount.

Are any noticeable slowdowns or downtimes anticipated DURING the installation? Us PF addicts need some advanced warning to take a sedative or something to cope with any down time. :rolleyes:
 
  • #29
Moonbear said:
Are any noticeable slowdowns or downtimes anticipated DURING the installation? Us PF addicts need some advanced warning to take a sedative or something to cope with any down time. :rolleyes:

2-3 hours, not sure what time yet
 
  • #30
Ok the new HD is installed and database has been moved. Hopefully this helps, let me know.
 
  • #31
Greg Bernhardt said:
Ok the new HD is installed and database has been moved. Hopefully this helps, let me know.

Phew! That was painless. Thanks for doing all the work during early hours. :smile:
 
  • #32
Wow, I didn't feel a thing!

Thanks Greg!
 
  • #33
Greg---I'm thinking it may be my system, settings, a program, or firewall--but it still seems to have started about the same time as the 'partnering' with SA. It's 'crashed' three times today already. I can't get a 'good' reading on it as when it crashes, as the info is lost (not saved when I have to shut down and restart). But, one thing comes up, is that the PF website is trying to scan different ports, attempting connection requests to ports, and even a Rst attack to a port(I haven't looked that up yet).

Does any of that make sense? Could all of that be that Java script?
 
  • #34
rewebster said:
But, one thing comes up, is that the PF website is trying to scan different ports, attempting connection requests to ports, and even a Rst attack to a port(I haven't looked that up yet).

Does any of that make sense?

No it doesn't make sense. What firewall are you using? It deletes the log when you restart?
 
  • #35
Outpost --the free version

well, it doesn't seem to 'record' the problem for the crash anyway

but this (PF) site is the only site that I have trouble with

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under the "attacks detection" tab, I get these:


5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(4585) TCP(4584)
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(4585)
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(4584)
5/9/08 9:46:09 AM Rst attack 75.126.60.30 -> 75.126.60.30
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(2632) TCP(2633)
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(2632)
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(2633)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(1600) TCP(1601)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(1600)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(1601)


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I really think its Java---Java is a strange bird that 'gets' into the computer---like quicktime, and flash--and wants to do what it wants without much controls by the user (me)
 
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I have to believe that is the IP being spoofed by whoever the "Attacker" is. None of those ports are open for outbound traffic.
 
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  • #37
OK, but...----please, paraphrase number 1

and,


"the IP being spoofed by whoever the "Attacker" is."
 
  • #38
rewebster said:
OK, but...----please, paraphrase number 1

and,


"the IP being spoofed by whoever the "Attacker" is."

A hacker can mask their IP and make it look like it coming from somewhere else.
 
  • #39
but when I put in "75.126.62.146" I get "About Apache HTTP Server"---not the PF webpage---when I put in 75.126.60.30, I get a varied form of PF-----so what is the IP address of PF supposed to be?


and is there a way I can find out where these 'attacks' are coming from if they aren't coming from maybe the java requests on PF?
 
  • #40
75.126.62.146 is our machine IP, if attacks were coming from our machine that is the IP you'd see. 75.126.60.30 is the alias IP attached to PF's account. You'll have to speak with the firewall software support for more information on detection.
 
  • #41
I guess I still don't know what you mean by "75.126.60.30 is the alias IP attached to PF's account. "


are you saying that that IP (75.126.60.30) has nothing to do with PF, or that it is like a subaccount that is still part of PF, that someone other than PF is behind it, or what?
 
  • #42
rewebster said:
I guess I still don't know what you mean by "75.126.60.30 is the alias IP attached to PF's account. "


are you saying that that IP (75.126.60.30) has nothing to do with PF, or that it is like a subaccount that is still part of PF, that someone other than PF is behind it, or what?

75.126.60.30 is PF's IP, but there can be unlimited IPs for accounts on a machine. Someone can't attack you from 75.126.60.30 because 75.126.60.30 points to a web account. It's like saying someone is attacking you from a folder on a machine. That doesn't make sense. If someone was attacking you from my machine, it would show the machine IP instead of an IP linked to a folder.
 
  • #43
Without getting into the 'exact account' , could the problem be that I have 'just about' all ads blocked, and not to even show, on just about all web pages (including the PF) then?
 
  • #44
rewebster said:
Without getting into the 'exact account' , could the problem be that I have 'just about' all ads blocked, and not to even show, on just about all web pages (including the PF) then?

I don't see why that would cause this problem.
 
  • #45
then, some account in the 75.126.60.30 IP is the problem with MY computer---it doesn't sound like it's widespread-----maybe that account just wants to put a cookie in (?).

I thought it may be something related to why my computer (and several others) crashes when we try to use the chat room (java/flash? related, again, maybe) and can't do chat


Any idea on how I can pinpoint it?
 
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rewebster said:
then, some account in the 75.126.60.30 IP is the problem with MY computer---it doesn't sound like it's widespread-----maybe that account just wants to put a cookie in (?).

I thought it may be something related to why my computer (and several others) crashes when we try to use the chat room (java/flash? related, again, maybe) and can't do chat


Any idea on how I can pinpoint it?

The chat uses flash. I don't think I can help you any further. But I'm quite sure it's not coming from PF.
 
  • #47
I've changed just about every setting and my computer is still crashing only when on PF. I'm thinking it still may be a rare complaint with others, but I wonder if it could be that java script that was added. Do you know what java settings could be tweaked on mine, or is it necessary on PF pages for it to be there, any ideas?
 
  • #48
rewebster said:
I've changed just about every setting and my computer is still crashing only when on PF. I'm thinking it still may be a rare complaint with others, but I wonder if it could be that java script that was added. Do you know what java settings could be tweaked on mine, or is it necessary on PF pages for it to be there, any ideas?

Why don't you just turn java off and see if that fixes the problem?
 
  • #49
OK--tried it for a while----it seems to be working on the PF with 'things' turn off----of course, everything thing else on other sites don't work now though--from youtube on---I don't think there's a setting on win98se to set preferences on each site
 
  • #50
One somewhat tedious solution is to disable scripting at medium security level, and add all the sites to the "trusted sites" level where you want to have java enabled.
 

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