PF5 Problems & Errors: Report & Discuss

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This discussion focuses on reporting various errors and functional problems with PF5. Users have noted issues with the messaging system, including incorrect alert counts on the bell icon and problems with MathJax when editing posts containing LaTeX code. There are also concerns about the mobile view being limited to a single column, which affects usability on larger screens. Additionally, users reported missing features like the post count and the option to set titles and descriptions for media uploads. Overall, the thread serves as a platform for users to highlight these issues while the site undergoes improvements.
  • #251
BvU said:
Finally: when I compose a reply and go elsewhere to check something, the work is lost when not previewed or saved first. Painful o:).
They should be auto saved after a period of time. I forget the number. Anyone?
 
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  • #252
Greg Bernhardt said:
They should be auto saved after a period of time.
Start of post was at. . .

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Looked like first auto save was at. . .

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Lol, that was kind of a waste of time, wasn't it ? . :rolleyes: . :-p

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  • #253
Greg Bernhardt said:
They should be auto saved after a period of time. I forget the number. Anyone?
Around 5s. If I finish typing, wait for 5s and go to some other page, and then return, I find the content still there. Less than that, it doesn't always work (works on my laptop, but not on phone, so 5s is the time I think).
 
  • #254
I knew you were going to type this. . . . :DD

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One hundred ten minutes ago. . . .LMAO
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  • #255
Check your time zone setting then.
 
  • #256
jsed said:
Yes, that is almost exactly right, except the bolts are only present on the side nearest us, the bottom of the beam, and the back face of the beam which butts up to the support plate. I tried to put arrows on your drawing to make it more clear
Is posted 8 minutes before the post to which it replies (and which has the drawing) ? Time zones too ?
 
  • #257
I am puzzled by the closing of the thread: "What is the best Sci-Fi ever: TV, Movie, and Book".

Just to satisfy my curiosity, I am wondering why the thread was closed. I saw nothing in it that I recognized as being offensive or violating the rules. My curiosity is also aroused since a post I made to the thread before it was closed was removed.

BTW: I tried to send this message as a conversation to a monitor, but that did not work.
 
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  • #258
Buzz Bloom said:
I am puzzled by the closing of the thread: "What is the best Sci-Fi ever: TV, Movie, and Book".
The thread is 16 years old. Since then we have a few other "favorite" or "best" threads.
 
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  • #260
Greg Bernhardt said:
weird, it should not collapse to single column until 900px. what tablet are you using?
The Bill said:
Asus P01M. I'm using Chrome version 73.0.3683.75 on Android 5.0.
This still isn't resolved. The mobile version of the main page still only uses one column in portrait orientation on my 1536x2048 screen.

I've been using the site a lot less in the intervening months because of this bug.

Edit: My Chrome version is now 75.0.3770.101, if that matters.
 
  • #261
Sorry, @The Bill, I didn't want your post be lost if I add another one, the more as I find it important and the developers should know. However, I have also a question:

Given a thread on the watch list. Could it be, that alerts are only sent once, regardless of how many new posts appeared in the meantime? I've overlooked an important post in the challenge thread, although I normally work through my list of alerts post by post. I think I have observed this a few times: one alert despite there had been more than one new post.
 
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  • #263
fresh_42 said:
Given a thread on the watch list. Could it be, that alerts are only sent once, regardless of how many new posts appeared in the meantime? I've overlooked an important post in the challenge thread, although I normally work through my list of alerts post by post. I think I have observed this a few times: one alert despite there had been more than one new post.
That is the system, if I understand you correctly. Say one of your watched threads receives a reply. If you do not visit the thread and see the reply, no alerts are sent for subsequent replies in that thread. Once you read all the posts marked with "NEW" in that thread, the software again sends you an alert for a new post.

At least this is how it works for us. It could be different for the mentors.
 
  • #264
Wrichik Basu said:
That is the system, if I understand you correctly. Say one of your watched threads receives a reply. If you do not visit the thread and see the reply, no alerts are sent for subsequent replies in that thread. Once you read all the posts marked with "NEW" in that thread, the software again sends you an alert for a new post.

At least this is how it works for us. It could be different for the mentors.
It's not different. I only thought that in the old system, each new post had been alerted.
 
  • #265
fresh_42 said:
It's not different. I only thought that in the old system, each new post had been alerted.
If I remember correctly, this system was followed in PF4 as well.
 
  • #266
One alert for a thread, then nothing until you visit it - that's how I remember it as well. Anyway, I usually use the https://www.physicsforums.com/watched/threads list (which does it in a similar way).
jim mcnamara said:
See: https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ment-interventions-on-patient-outcomes.974500

Summary block does not like html tags. I left them in so you can see. It is a direct quote and needs attribution.
That is not an HTML tag (these are written with < >). It is a BBcode and they don't work in summaries. You can use a more informal style to mark it as quote: Quotation marks or write it like the following line:
> This is a quote
 
  • #267
The Bill said:
This still isn't resolved. The mobile version of the main page still only uses one column in portrait orientation on my 1536x2048 screen.
So you are using this resolution on a mobile device?
 
  • #268
Greg Bernhardt said:
So you are using this resolution on a mobile device?

Yes, the model of which I re-quoted in the post you just quoted.
 
  • #269
The Bill said:
Yes, the model of which I re-quoted in the post you just quoted.
When you say two column, are you referring to the sidebar or the sub forum list on the homepage? In chrome developer tools the sidebar snaps back at 1080.
 
  • #270
Greg Bernhardt said:
When you say two column, are you referring to the sidebar or the sub forum list on the homepage?

The sub forum list. They show as a single column in the mobile view at 1536x2048.
 
  • #271
Greg Bernhardt said:
When you say two column, are you referring to the sidebar or the sub forum list on the homepage? In chrome developer tools the sidebar snaps back at 1080.

Here's a representative screenshot partway down the front page:

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  • #272
Is there a need to use the mobile version with such a large resolution?
 
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  • #273
mfb said:
Is there a need to use the mobile version with such a large resolution?
1: The desktop version doesn't feel as good to use as the mobile version on this touchscreen. Especially within threads. The current desktop version on this screen isn't as easy to use as the previous mobile version was.
2: Even if it did, that's still an extra step I'd have to take every time I visit the site. As it is, the "best" workaround involves flopping back and forth between mobile and desktop when going between different parts of the site. And even if I could automate that, it still feels worse to use than the previous version of the site did.

The net effect for me is that I use the site much less than I used to because it's frustrating and disappointing.

I generally like the new version. It's better once I'm in a thread.

I regret explaining myself just now, and I'm not sure why. Oh well. I don't think I'm being rude, so I'll post this anyway in case it serves some purpose.
 
  • #274
Alert stuck on

Greg, I get the alert for the Jim Hardy memorial thread and have ever since the thread was posted, and it won't go away. I've clicked on it, reset my browser, etc but it just won't stop showing up (along with any other alerts I get, but they all go away properly). Is it just me or is it that way on purpose for a while?
 
  • #275
phinds said:
Alert stuck on
In preferences there are two check boxes:
Alerts pop-up skips mark read
Alerts page skips mark read
If you have both ticked, you seem not to be able to dismiss Greg's announcement alerts.

Workaround is to uncheck one or other, go to the alerts pop up or alerts page (which marks the alert read), then go back to preferences and check the box again if you want.
 
  • #276
Ibix said:
In preferences there are two check boxes:
Alerts pop-up skips mark read
Alerts page skips mark read
If you have both ticked, you seem not to be able to dismiss Greg's announcement alerts.
Yes, that was the case. Both were checked.

Workaround is to uncheck one or other, go to the alerts pop up or alerts page (which marks the alert read), then go back to preferences and check the box again if you want.
Excellent. Did the job. Thanks.
 
  • #278
I see that in that same post the poster's icon is not clickable the way it should be. Weird.
 
  • #279
Hmm... a bug for a Zero day attack?
 
  • #280
Tom.G said:
Hmm... a bug for a Zero day attack?
But why that particular post, I wonder.
 
  • #281
I suspect it's a "ban me and remove my name from everything" request that's been granted for some reason (you can find the original username fairly simply). There is at least one other user I'm aware of whose name is also not a link, but isn't just a member number.
 
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  • #282
Yes, the account has been removed.
This is the intended behavior of the forum.
 
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  • #283
Hi @Greg Bernhardt . I was trying to use the Search advanced feature to find threads where 2 (or more) PF members have contributed.

However, every time I enter 2 PFS member names, (under "Posted by:" with PFS Member X and Member Y) I only see cases where posts by Member X or Member Y, not Member X and Member Y. Is there a way to use the AND option in searches?
 
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  • #284
StatGuy2000 said:
Is there a way to use the AND option in searches?
AND works for keywords not users
 
  • #285
Greg Bernhardt said:
AND works for keywords not users

That's a shame, as I would like to see AND expand for users as well (since there are cases where I would want to look up posts of 2 different PF users in a thread). I seem to recall that the previous version of PF had this capability. Is this something that is possible to update in the future?
 
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  • #286
StatGuy2000 said:
I seem to recall that the previous version of PF had this capability. Is this something that is possible to update in the future?
hmmm I don't remember, but I would think not because the software doesn't often remove features. I can put in a request for the devs to put it into core, but since this is the first time I've heard this request, I don't think it will happen anytime soon.
 
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  • #287
Greg Bernhardt said:
hmmm I don't remember, but I would think not because the software doesn't often remove features. I can put in a request for the devs to put it into core, but since this is the first time I've heard this request, I don't think it will happen anytime soon.

Thanks Greg. No rush, just a nice-to-have in my personal opinion.

If it's too much trouble to implement, and/or if not enough others are interested, then no need to proceed any further.
 
  • #288
Recent weird occurrences:
  • I noticed today that (for me at least) the emoticon for liking (or whatever) a post for informative has changed to a red thumbs down symbol. However, when you hover over it, it still says informative.
  • A day or two ago, I had a post I wrote and saved as a draft. When I returned to it, the links I had inserted had expanded and propagated greatly. They encompassed whole paragraphs (rather than a word or two) and made separate links in neighboring paragraphs.
 
  • #289
BillTre said:
A day or two ago, I had a post I wrote and saved as a draft. When I returned to it, the links I had inserted had expanded and propagated greatly. They encompassed whole paragraphs (rather than a word or two) and made separate links in neighboring paragraphs.
You can differentiate between a link like
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/postindex/#toggle-id-1and a link like
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/postindex/#toggle-id-1
but it is complicated.

First, insert the link and click "Post Reply".
Second, re-enter under the "Edit" option.
Third, click "Toggle BB-Code".
Fourth, change the entry unfurl="true" to unfurl="false" at the link's URL tag or delete it.
Fifth, don't forget to click on "Toggle BB-Code" again, since otherwise you will get strange edit behaviour next time you use the editor.
Sixth, click "Save".

o0):oldbiggrin::cool:
 
  • #290
Maybe I was not clear.
I fixed the links before I posted the post and it came out OK.

fresh_42 said:
and a link like
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/postindex/#toggle-id-1
but it is complicated.
A link like the above would have expanded after saving the draft and then reopening it, such that the blue covered the whole paragraph it was in as well as neighboring paragraphs.

The emoticons I am referring to show whether I like a post or had some other opinion about them.
Nothing special.
 
  • #291
BillTre said:
I noticed today that (for me at least) the emoticon for liking (or whatever) a post for informative has changed to a red thumbs down symbol. However, when you hover over it, it still says informative.
Seems that informative is removed and changed to dislike button:
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The last one seems to be new too.
 
  • #292
Wrichik Basu said:
Seems that informative is removed and changed to dislike button:
But is still labelled informative if you hover over it.

I like the skeptical one. I have already used it.
 
  • #293
These are mine:
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at least here.:oldconfused:
 
  • #294
Mine look justt like @Wrichik Basu's.

Two continents to one, you lose.
 
  • #295
BillTre said:
Mine look justt like @Wrichik Basu's.

Two continents to one, you lose.
I get those with Opera! (Haven't installed Firefox here.)
 
  • #296
Using Firefox on a Mac.
 
  • #298
\begin{array}{c|c|c}
\text{ Anger Icon } & \text{ Info Icon } & \text{ unclear }\\
\hline \\
\text{ Chrome Mac, Android } & \text{ Chrome PC } & \text{ both effects reported on different OS }\\
\text{ FireFox (Mac, W10) }& \text{ Firefox (W7) } &\text{ both effects reported on different OS }\\
\text{ Opera } && \text{ Edge }\\
&&\text{ IE }\\
&&\text{ Safari }\\
&&\text{ Maxthon }\\
&&\text{ Rockmelt }\\
&&\text{ Seamonkey }\\
&&\text{ DeepNet }
\end{array}

Greg Bernhardt said:
Clear your browser caches
No change in Opera.
 
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  • #299
Cleared my browser caches, no change.
 
  • #300
Just tried Chrome and it looks like it does on Firefox (red thumbs down and red skeptical).
 

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