Phase constant in simple harmonic motion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phase constant in simple harmonic motion (SHM), specifically its conventional representation in the equation of motion, the implications of its value, and the conditions under which it is determined. Participants explore the relationship between the phase constant and the initial conditions of the motion.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the phase constant must be constrained between [0, 2π] and notes that the motion repeats after 2π, suggesting that the choice may be conventional rather than compulsory.
  • Another participant confirms that the equation x=A sin (ωt + φ) is the conventional form for SHM and explains that a phase constant of 0 corresponds to starting from the mean position moving towards the positive extreme, while a phase constant of π corresponds to starting towards the negative extreme.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how to derive the equation x(t) = A sin(ωt) and mentions that the phase constant is calculated first before plugging it into the general equation.
  • In response, another participant explains that boundary conditions, such as the initial position and velocity, lead to two possible values for the phase constant (0 or π), and the initial velocity condition helps determine that φ = 0 when moving in the positive direction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of constraining the phase constant to a specific range and the process of determining its value based on initial conditions. There is no consensus on whether the phase constant must be limited to [0, 2π].

Contextual Notes

Participants mention boundary conditions and initial velocity as critical factors in determining the phase constant, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these conditions fully.

Elena14
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I know the phase constant depends upon the choice of the instant t=0. Is it compulsory that the phase constant must be between [0,2π] ? I know that after 2π the motion will repeat itself so it will not really matter, but what is the conventional way to write the phase constant in the general equation of simple harmonic motion, x=A sin (wt+ φ) ; x is the displacement from the mean position, A is the amplitude, w is the angular frequency, and φ is the phase constant.

Also, when the particle starts from mean position and move towards the positive extreme, we take the phase constant to be 0 and when it moves toward the negative extreme, we take it to be π, why is that?
 
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Elena14 said:
what is the conventional way to write the phase constant in the general equation of simple harmonic motion, x=A sin (wt+ φ)
Yes, the equation you wrote there is the conventional way to write the most general form of SHM.
Elena14 said:
lso, when the particle starts from mean position and move towards the positive extreme, we take the phase constant to be 0 and when it moves toward the negative extreme, we take it to be π, why is that?
When the particle starts from the equilibrium and takes the positive x direction in the beginning of its course, the displacement as a function of time has the form ##x(t) = A \sin \omega t##, therefore ##\phi = 0##. If instead, the particle drives to the negative direction at the start, the displacement will be ##x(t) = -A \sin \omega t##. From there you should see that the phase constant for the second case must indeed be ##\pi##.
 
And how do you get x(t)=A sin ωt?
We were taught that we first calculate the phase constant and then plug it into get the general equation.
 
Elena14 said:
And how do you get x(t)=A sin ωt?
For the case of movement to the positive direction? Well, you need to know the boundary conditions. For example ##x(0) = 0## and ##x'(0) = |v_0|## (the initial velocity is positive because the particle moves to the positive ##x## in the beginning). Using the general solution ##x(t) = A\sin (\omega t +\phi)##, the first boundary condition yields two possibilities for ##\phi##: ##0## or ##\pi##. The second condition entails
$$
x'(0) = |v_0| = \omega A \cos\phi
$$
The above equation will be satisfied if ##\phi = 0## instead of ##\pi##, therefore
$$
x(t) = A \sin\omega t
$$
with ##A = |v_0|/\omega##
 

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