Creating a Light-Activated Switch with a Photodetector Circuit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a light-activated switch using a photodetector circuit. Participants explore various types of photodetectors, their functionalities, and how they can be integrated into a circuit to open or close a switch based on light detection. The scope includes technical explanations and conceptual clarifications relevant to circuit design.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a current-to-voltage converter circuit with a photodetector to amplify the output voltage to close a switch, possibly a relay.
  • Another participant proposes using a photoconductor or a photodiode, questioning the functionality of each in the context of the circuit.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the operation of a photodiode, noting that it allows current to flow in one direction when it detects sufficient photons.
  • There is a discussion about whether a photodiode functions like a switch, with some participants asserting that it opens or closes based on light detection.
  • One participant corrects a previous claim, stating that a photodiode generates a reverse photocurrent when exposed to light, which requires amplification to be useful.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a phototransistor, which may align more closely with the initial assumptions about switch behavior.
  • Additional resources are shared, including a book recommendation and a link to a website with circuits using various detectors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the functionality of photodiodes and phototransistors, with no consensus reached on which component is more suitable for the intended application. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to implement the light-activated switch.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions about the behavior of photodetectors, including the need for amplification of the photocurrent and the specific characteristics of different types of photodetectors. There are unresolved questions about the operational details and circuit design implications.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in circuit design, particularly those exploring the use of photodetectors in practical applications or students learning about electronics.

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How would one set up a circuit where a photodetector closes a switch in a circuit once it detects light?
 
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Depending on the photodector, you would probably bias it up and do a current-to-voltage converter circuit. Then take that output voltage and amplify it a bit to get enough power to close your switch (like a relay?).
 
Hey berkeman. How are you? I am only in my second week of my first circuits course, so could you explain what you just said in slightly more detail.
 
I would probably want to use a PhotoConductor, huh?
 
Nothing000 said:
I would probably want to use a PhotoConductor, huh?
A photodiode is what you want to use.

Is this coursework?
 
No, just curious.
 
A photodiode you say? So let me know if I am correct. A photodiode detects when photons are entering it. When it detects enough photons it starts doing its job. Am I right so far?
The job that it does is it allows current to flow in the circuit (but only in one direction).
Is that right?
 
If I am right then wouldn't the photodiode act just like a switch only it "opens/closes" by the detection of light?
 
Nothing000 said:
Hey berkeman. How are you? I am only in my second week of my first circuits course, so could you explain what you just said in slightly more detail.
Hi 000, I forget if I recommended this book to you already, but "The Art of Electronics" by Horowitz and Hill is a good book to get to augment your early studies. It explains all about photodiodes and current-to-voltage conversion using opamps. Here's wikipedia's entry on photodiodes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photodiode
 
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Thanks berkeman. I will pick up that book. And I read wikipedia's entry on photodiodes. I have extracted from that article that a photodiode would act just like a switch. The switch is open when no light is detected, and it closes when it detects light. Am I right?
Because that's what I want to do. I want to close a circuit when it detects light, and open it when it is dark.
 
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Nothing000 said:
Thanks berkeman. I will pick up that book. And I read wikipedia's entry on photodiodes. I have extracted from that article that a photodiode would act just like a switch. The switch is open when no light is detected, and it closes when it detects light. Am I right?
Because that's what I want to do. I want to close a circuit when it detects light, and open it when it is dark.
No. When light hits a photodiode, a reverse photocurrent is generated. This photocurrent is small, so you need amplification to do anything with it.
 
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berkeman said:
Depending on the photodector, you would probably bias it up and do a current-to-voltage converter circuit. Then take that output voltage and amplify it a bit to get enough power to close your switch (like a relay?).

So would this apply to a photodiode as the photodetector?
 
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Nothing: Check into a phototransistor. It behaves more like what you originally assumed. If I remember correctly, the ones I have used are 2 leaded devices.
 
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I don't want to get ahead of your learning curve but http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/PhotoDetectors.html" gives some circuits using various detectors as suggested by Beckeman and Averagesupernova.

Regards
 
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Kick butt. Thanks dlgoff.
 

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