Photons and Relativity: A Question of Speed and Time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving two runners moving at different speeds (10000 km/s and 0.99c) and the timing of light reaching them after a light source is activated. The conversation explores concepts related to the speed of light, relativity, and the implications of different reference frames.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether photons emitted from a light source will reach both runners at the same time or if the slower runner will receive them first.
  • Another participant clarifies that the speeds are relative to point A and suggests that the light will reach the slower runner first, assuming the light is emitted from point A two seconds after they start running.
  • A third participant encourages seeking out differing viewpoints to enhance understanding, implying that agreement may limit learning.
  • One participant expresses a misunderstanding regarding the term "hypothetically," clarifying that it refers to a supposition rather than a feasible scenario.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There appears to be some agreement on the interpretation of the scenario, particularly regarding the timing of light reaching the runners. However, there is an underlying tension regarding differing interpretations of the implications of the speeds and the nature of the discussion itself, indicating that multiple views remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the reference frame and the nature of the speeds mentioned, which are not universally agreed upon. The implications of relativistic effects on the timing of light reaching the runners are also not fully resolved.

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Hello, I'm sorry to ask a question that has probably been asked many times before, but I currently have limited time, and am very anxious to find an answer. Anyways, here goes:


Hypothetically: If two people start running from point A, one running at 10000 km/s, and the other running at .99c. Two seconds after they begin, a light source is shined in their direction. (Lets say that the area on which they were running was all perfectly flatland and stretched on for billions of miles.) Will the photons emitted from the light source reach them both at the same time? Or will they reach the slower runner first?



I know that this is a pretty simple question, and I'm pretty sure that I know the answer, but I heard someone talking about this, and what they were saying was opposite to what I'd believed.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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admd1 said:
Hello, I'm sorry to ask a question that has probably been asked many times before, but I currently have limited time, and am very anxious to find an answer. Anyways, here goes:


Hypothetically: If two people start running from point A, one running at 10000 km/s, and the other running at .99c.
The speeds are relative to A, presumably?
admd1 said:
Two seconds after they begin, a light source is shined in their direction. (Lets say that the area on which they were running was all perfectly flatland and stretched on for billions of miles.) Will the photons emitted from the light source reach them both at the same time? Or will they reach the slower runner first?
When you say a light source is shined in their direction, do you mean it's shined from the position of A, two seconds after they left A as measured by a clock at rest with respect to A? If so, the light will reach the runner whose speed is lower relative to A first.
 
That's exactly what I meant. Thanks for the confirmation.
 
admd, you can only learn so much from someone who agrees with you. Go find the person whom you antisocially overheard saying the opposite, ask them to explain why, tell them the explanation for your version in return, and you should both have a higher understanding by the time you reach agreement.

By the way, by "hypothetically" I presume you mean "according to my homework problem"?
 
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By Hypothetically, I meant "suppose that." That as of now, no one can run anywhere near 10000km/h, let alone .9c. I'm in the midst of reading Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe, and what my philosophy teacher mentioned in class when trying to explain self-evident truths differed from what I thought I knew was true.


Should your response lead me to presume that you think it's possible for one to run at these speeds? =)
Also, it's a matter of opinion, but I don't think that paying attention in class should be labeled as "antisocial."


You're right though, I probably should bring it up with him to double check.
 
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