Phys Static Friction Ramp Problem

In summary: Yes, you are correct. I apologize for the mistake.In summary, the problem involves a motorcycle riding down a wet street with an angle of 20 degrees below the horizontal. As the rider notices a construction crew digging a deep hole at the bottom of the hill, they apply the brakes and lock their wheels at a speed of 20 m/s. The inclined street is 40 m long and the coefficients of friction between the tires and pavement are μs=0.90 and μk=0.70. After solving for the acceleration, the time to reach 0 m/s speed is 12.23 seconds and the distance traveled is approximately 183 m. However, using a different kinematics equation can save time in solving for
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Homework Statement


The problem reads : You are riding your motorcycle one day down a wet street that slopes downward at an angle of 20 ∘ below the horizontal. As you start to ride down the hill, you notice a construction crew has dug a deep hole in the street at the bottom of the hill. A Siberian tiger, escaped from the City Zoo, has taken up residence in the hole. You apply the brakes and lock your wheels at the top of the hill, where you are moving with a speed of 20 m/s. The inclined street in front of you is 40 m long.

A)Will you plunge into the hole and become the tiger's lunch, or do you skid to a stop before you reach the hole? (The coefficients of friction between your motorcycle tires and the wet pavement are μs=0.90 and μk=0.70.

Homework Equations


F_fr = μN
∑F = ma
∑F_net = ma = μN - mg sin70

The Attempt at a Solution



I combined all of the equations above canceling out the mass to get an acceleration of 2.452 m/s^2. I then used a kinematics equation V_x = V_o + at to find that the time to reach 0 m/s speed was 12.23 s. (This number seems large to me). I then used another kinematics equation Dx = v_ot + 1/2 at^2. I found the distance by the man to be something around 183m. This does not seem right to me, but I don't know where my logic is flawed. Could someone check me on this?
 
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PhysicsDerp said:

Homework Statement


The problem reads : You are riding your motorcycle one day down a wet street that slopes downward at an angle of 20 ∘ below the horizontal. As you start to ride down the hill, you notice a construction crew has dug a deep hole in the street at the bottom of the hill. A Siberian tiger, escaped from the City Zoo, has taken up residence in the hole. You apply the brakes and lock your wheels at the top of the hill, where you are moving with a speed of 20 m/s. The inclined street in front of you is 40 m long.

A)Will you plunge into the hole and become the tiger's lunch, or do you skid to a stop before you reach the hole? (The coefficients of friction between your motorcycle tires and the wet pavement are μs=0.90 and μk=0.70.


Homework Equations


F_fr = μN
∑F = ma
∑F_net = ma = μN - mg sin70
70? Isn't he angle 20o with respect to the horizontal?

The Attempt at a Solution



I combined all of the equations above canceling out the mass to get an acceleration of 2.452 m/s^2.
You should show your work for how you got this number. Per the forum rules, we can't help you significantly if you don't show your work.

That said, I came up with a different value for the acceleration.

I then used a kinematics equation V_x = V_o + at to find that the time to reach 0 m/s speed was 12.23 s. (This number seems large to me). I then used another kinematics equation Dx = v_ot + 1/2 at^2. I found the distance by the man to be something around 183m. This does not seem right to me, but I don't know where my logic is flawed. Could someone check me on this?

While there's nothing technically wrong with solving for t first and then using that in a separate equation, you can save yourself some time by picking a different kinematics equation from the beginning.

There is a kinematics equation for uniform acceleration that is a function of initial and final velocities, acceleration and distance. Using that equation, you can find the rest of the answer in a single step.

It's not a huge issue in homework problems, but picking the right equation at the beginning can save you lots of precious time when taking tests. :smile:
 
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Since it is downward at an angle of 20 ∘ "below the horizontal" shouldn't my angle be 70 degrees when I draw my triangle? The angle at the bottom of the hill would be 20 I thought. Can you tell me if my net force equation is correct?
 
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PhysicsDerp said:
Since it is downward at an angle of 20 ∘ "below the horizontal" shouldn't my angle be 70 degrees when I draw my triangle? The angle at the bottom of the hill would be 20 I thought. Can you tell me if my net force equation is correct?
Yes, you can draw it like that. :smile:

But then the component of the gravitational force acting along the surface would involve the cosine(70) function instead of the sine function wouldn't it?
 
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Your approach and equations are correct. However, there may be a mistake in your calculations. The time to reach 0 m/s speed should be 8.16 s, not 12.23 s. This can be found by using the equation V_f = V_i + at, where V_f = 0 m/s, V_i = 20 m/s, and a = 2.452 m/s^2.

Using this value for time, the distance to reach 0 m/s speed should be 66.12 m, not 183 m. This can be found by using the equation d = V_i*t + 1/2*a*t^2, where d = unknown distance, V_i = 20 m/s, t = 8.16 s, and a = 2.452 m/s^2.

So, to answer the question, you would skid to a stop before reaching the hole.
 

1. What is static friction?

Static friction is the force that prevents an object from moving when it is in contact with another surface.

2. How is static friction different from kinetic friction?

Static friction only occurs when an object is at rest, while kinetic friction occurs when an object is in motion.

3. How do you calculate static friction?

The formula for calculating static friction is Fs = μs * N, where Fs is the force of static friction, μs is the coefficient of static friction, and N is the normal force between the two surfaces.

4. What is a ramp problem in relation to static friction?

A ramp problem refers to a scenario where an object is on an inclined surface and the force of static friction is needed to prevent the object from sliding down the ramp.

5. How does the angle of the ramp affect the force of static friction?

The force of static friction increases as the angle of the ramp increases. This is because the weight component of the object that is parallel to the ramp also increases, requiring a larger force of static friction to keep the object in place.

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