Undergrad Physical model of the roulette wheel

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The discussion focuses on understanding the friction force terms related to a ball rolling on a roulette wheel, specifically the significance of the cosθ term. The frame of reference is identified as consisting of the weight vector and the centrifugal force vector, with the tilt angle epsilon discussed in relation to the wheel's steepness. It is noted that the steepness varies depending on the position on the wheel, with specific angles defined at the highest and opposite points of tilt. The clarification provided helps to resolve the initial confusion regarding these concepts. Overall, the explanation enhances comprehension of the physical model presented in the document.
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I would like an explanation of the physical model for a roulette wheel.
Hello,
I am having trouble understanding the two friction force terms from the ball rolling on page 4 of this physical model: http://www.dewtronics.com/tutorials/roulette/documents/Roulette_Physik.pdf
What is the reason for the cos\theta term ?

I think the frame of reference is made up of the weight vector and the centrifugal force vector,but the tilt angle epsilon is shown page 15.

Thank you.
 
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yamata1 said:
I am having trouble understanding the two friction force terms from the ball rolling on page 4 of this physical model: http://www.dewtronics.com/tutorials/roulette/documents/Roulette_Physik.pdf
What is the reason for the cos\theta term ?

I think the frame of reference is made up of the weight vector and the centrifugal force vector,but the tilt angle epsilon is shown page 15.
How the steepness of the wheel is affected by the til depends on the position on the wheel.
At the highest point of the tilt, cos\theta = 1 and the angle that the surface of the wheel makes is \delta + \epsilon at the opposite point of the wheel this angle is \delta - \epsilon
 
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willem2 said:
How the steepness of the wheel is affected by the til depends on the position on the wheel.
At the highest point of the tilt, cos\theta = 1 and the angle that the surface of the wheel makes is \delta + \epsilon at the opposite point of the wheel this angle is \delta - \epsilon
Thank you for this explanation,it's clear now.
 
Topic about reference frames, center of rotation, postion of origin etc Comoving ref. frame is frame that is attached to moving object, does that mean, in that frame translation and rotation of object is zero, because origin and axes(x,y,z) are fixed to object? Is it same if you place origin of frame at object center of mass or at object tail? What type of comoving frame exist? What is lab frame? If we talk about center of rotation do we always need to specified from what frame we observe?

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