Physicists build Graphene Thermodynamic Battery

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a new technology involving graphene thermodynamic batteries, as reported in a Science Daily article. Participants explore the transition from experimental physics to engineering applications, the potential impact on mobile energy, and the environmental consequences of such technology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to advance from the experimental stage of graphene batteries to practical engineering applications, pondering whether this technology could revolutionize mobile energy or if physical limits will restrict its power output.
  • Concerns are raised about the claim of "limitless energy," with a participant suggesting that this could violate thermodynamic laws and lead to environmental consequences, such as a potential ice age.
  • Another participant critiques the original article as misleading and not accurately representing the scientific work, indicating that it is essential to refer to the peer-reviewed paper instead of popular science articles.
  • A reference to a previous study on a similar phenomenon in graphene is provided, suggesting that there may be established research relevant to the current discussion.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the original article and its claims about graphene technology. There is no consensus on the potential environmental impacts or the feasibility of the technology transitioning to practical applications.

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Participants highlight the importance of relying on peer-reviewed research rather than popular science articles, indicating potential limitations in the understanding of the technology's implications and the accuracy of reported claims.

Redmagic
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I read an article in Science Daily 'Physicists build circuit that generates clean, limitless power from graphene'. Can someone explain how to take this from the physics science experiment to the engineering prototype and implementation stage? Is this technology going to revolutionize the mobile energy field or will the physical limits of atomic thermodynamic energy not produce enough power for simple electronics?

Now if these batteries were hypothetically created and released into the wild, I see a entropy issue here. The claim in the article is that this is limitless energy. The laws of thermodynamics have to be preserved, so the energy is being absorbed from the environment.
If enough energy is absorbed from the environment over a long period of time, will this lead to a heatless world and potential ice age? On the other side of this, will it be potentially beneficial for society to absorb excess energy out of the environment and store it to reduce climate change effects? Are the current amounts discussed in this new technology too small to make any impact on a large scale?

Link is here for the article: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201002091029.htm
 
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The article just repeats a press release which has been described elsewhere as "a train wreck". It bears almost no relation to what was actually done. They got " A team of University of Arkansas physicists " right - at least I think so - but it all goes downhill from there.
 
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Redmagic said:
Link is here for the article

The article is not a valid reference. In addition to the fact that one should always look for the actual peer-reviewed paper, not some journalist's article about the paper, this particular article, as @Vanadium 50 has already noted, completely misdescribes what the paper actually says. Unfortunately, that's pretty much par for the course for most of these "get the latest breaking news in science" websites.

The preprint of the actual paper is here:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.09947
 

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