Physics/Chem Gas, Pressure, Volume, Temperature Question

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving gas laws, specifically relating to a balloon rising from the bottom of a lake. The scenario includes variables such as temperature, pressure, and volume, with the balloon transitioning from a submerged state to the surface.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for additional information to apply the Combined Gas Law effectively. There are questions about the initial conditions and assumptions regarding water density.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out the lack of certain values needed for calculations, while others have suggested assumptions that could facilitate the problem-solving process. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing information, particularly regarding the initial pressure and the temperature of the air above the lake. The accuracy of the provided diagram link has also been questioned.

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Homework Statement


A balloon is released from the bottom of a deep lake where the temperature is always 4 degC and rises to the top, where the pressure is standard atmospheric pressure. Assume that the balloon rises slowly enough that the temperature of the gas inside adjusts to its surroundings. Determine the pressure at the initial depth and the temperature of the air above the lake.

Diagram is here:
http://iwp2.ncssm.edu/pps/webInterface.php/Users/winters@ncssm.edu/gas-laws-bubble-01b.iwp...
Sorry part of it got cut off

Homework Equations


P1V1/T1 = P2V2/T2

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't seem to start this because I am missing two of the values in the Combined Gas Law, so I can't solve for one or the other. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
 
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I think you are missing some info, and the link to the diagram is incorrect.
 
I reposted the link. The applet also shows the depth in meters if that helps.
 
So you have the initial and final volume of the balloon as well.
You are probably also supposed to assume that the water density is constant so you can work out the initial pressure. (Hint lake=fresh water)
 

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