Physics II in comparison with Physics I?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around the transition from introductory physics courses to more advanced topics, specifically Physics II and III. Participants highlight that while Physics I often focuses on basic mechanics and is conceptually easier to grasp, Physics II introduces more complex subjects like electricity and magnetism, which require a deeper understanding of mathematics, particularly vector calculus. This shift can make the material more engaging and challenging. The conversation emphasizes the importance of mastering foundational concepts, as advanced courses become increasingly mathematical and can obscure the physical intuition if not well understood. Some participants express that their interest in physics grew significantly during Physics II, particularly when studying topics like Maxwell's Equations and introductory quantum mechanics. Concerns about boredom are addressed, suggesting that it may stem from the simplicity of early problems or the presentation style rather than the subject matter itself. Overall, the consensus is that advanced physics courses can be much more stimulating, but they require a solid grasp of the basics to fully appreciate the complexities of the material.
Nano-Passion
Messages
1,291
Reaction score
0
Alright here is my story: I took high school physics and loved it, went to college and took a class that is basically an algebra based physics class and a very light introductory just because I couldn't wait to get my hands on physics. When I was able to take Calculus based physics I did-- but now I'M bored! Everything feels very boring at the moment, it almost makes me double-think my physics career. On the other hand I love calculus and mathematics. But that is besides the point, my question is:

Do things get more interesting in physics II and III? It feels like a long way till quantum mechanics from here.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Things will get more and more mathematically technical and difficult, to the point beyond physical comprehension. In some of my upper level courses, we were given as much time as we needed on tests. We could sit in the room until our brains were fried and still not have the answer.

So yes they do. when you go over basic electricity in your calc based physics class you will start using vector calculus and integrating fields over regions. Trust me, physics will put all of your mathematical knowledge to the test, and the best part is that it represents things in the real world.
 
I am not a physics major but I can tell you there is a strong conceptual difference between PHY I and PHY II. In my case they each tickled a different part of the brain.
The first one is very easy to grasp conceptually because you can connect it to everyday things like how is that building standing, or how is that satellite turning around the earth? those are easy concepts to grasp because you can "see" mechanics at work.
Whereas phys II will be more like: What happens when I turn on my computer monitor? how about the radio and the amplifier in my car? what is really happening inside those things?

Soon you will be visualizing strings in the air so take your time to build a good foundation. JP
 
Last edited:
Nano-Passion said:
Do things get more interesting in physics II and III?

It depends on what topics those courses cover at your school.

In my case, the second semester was when I really got "turned on" to physics, by studying Maxwell's Equations (electricity and magnetism).

I didn't have a "Physics III." After the two-semester "general physics" sequence we had an "Introduction to Modern Physics" which included basic stuff on quantum mechanics (Schrödinger equation, particle in a box, etc.). Your Physics III probably covers that territory, but look in your course catalog.
 
Nano-Passion said:
Do things get more interesting in physics II and III? It feels like a long way till quantum mechanics from here.

One question worth considering is what is boring you about these courses. Is it because you're calculating how fast a block slides down an inclined plane and this seems lame compared to what (you think) quantum mechanics is? Or is it the methods and way the material is presented that is boring you? Or is it just not challenging you?

You absolutely must know the basics. Introductory physics courses give you a glimpse into how the everyday world works, as well as how physicists think about solving problems. They also have the advantage of giving you more time to understand the concepts of what you're discussing; like others have said, once you plunge into intermediate mechanics, quantum mechanics, and E&M, things will be so heavily mathematical that it's easy to lose the physics, so to say.

If you're expecting your quantum mechanics class to be something along the lines of everyone sitting around and discussing the multi-worlds interpretation, I think you'll be sorely disappointed.

I wasn't a huge fan of Physics I (with the exception of gravitation.) Physics II was very interesting, in my opinion. Intermediate mechanics, electrodynamics, and quantum I were my favorite subjects I studied. In some sense, then, how you feel about physics I is not reflective of how you will feel about the more advanced topics.

If you're looking for more of a challenge in your mechanics course, you can find some problems that are real bastards. Maybe attempt those and see if you're more interested.

jtbell said:
It depends on what topics those courses cover at your school.

...

I didn't have a "Physics III." After the two-semester "general physics" sequence we had an "Introduction to Modern Physics" which included basic stuff on quantum mechanics (Schrödinger equation, particle in a box, etc.). Your Physics III probably covers that territory, but look in your course catalog.

Yeah, at UTAustin, Physics III was a course on 'waves and oscillations.' It was mainly a course in solving hard differential equations. Then you took Modern Physics, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Either way, I think it may be worth at least sticking around for modern physics. Though the course isn't extremely thorough, you at least get a glimpse into what real(ish) quantum mechanics and special relativity are.
 
From my perspective: Physics I problems were Calc I/II problems with a little more of the science background. Maybe this is why you're a little bored? I can't really think of any Physics II or III problems that were covered specifically in Calculus or DiffEq.

I find myself much more challenged with Physics II for this reason.

(This is presuming that the courses introduce the following topics: Physics I = Mechanics, Physics II = E&M, Physics III = Modern/QM)
 
Hey, I am Andreas from Germany. I am currently 35 years old and I want to relearn math and physics. This is not one of these regular questions when it comes to this matter. So... I am very realistic about it. I know that there are severe contraints when it comes to selfstudy compared to a regular school and/or university (structure, peers, teachers, learning groups, tests, access to papers and so on) . I will never get a job in this field and I will never be taken serious by "real"...
Yesterday, 9/5/2025, when I was surfing, I found an article The Schwarzschild solution contains three problems, which can be easily solved - Journal of King Saud University - Science ABUNDANCE ESTIMATION IN AN ARID ENVIRONMENT https://jksus.org/the-schwarzschild-solution-contains-three-problems-which-can-be-easily-solved/ that has the derivation of a line element as a corrected version of the Schwarzschild solution to Einstein’s field equation. This article's date received is 2022-11-15...

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
43
Views
7K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
10
Views
4K
Back
Top